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Posted: 05/24/2008 at 10:16am | IP Logged Quote Denise Detwiler

The Prophetic Church - the Church who together expresses, reveals and demonstrates Jesus Christ on Earth

Rev 19:10b "I am a fellow servant of yours and your bretheren who hold the testimony of Jesus; worship God. For the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy." God's angel to John who had erringly fallen down to worship him.

 

 

There is far more on the way than what vast numbers have yet to see or even dare hope for.

There is already in place a stirring and a coming together and even flesh and life (Spirit) having to come on and into some of the bones. His life is the light of men. Therefore there have arisen and been assembled as we speak the ' radiant lighthouses' strategically placed.

Is 60:2-5 "For behold darkness will cover the earth and deep darkness the peoples; but the Lord will rise upon you and His glory will appear upon you. Nations will come to your light and kings to the brightness of your rising. Lift up your eyes round about and see; they all gather together, they come to you. Your sons will come from afar, and your daughters will be carried in the arms. Then you will see and be radiant and your heart will thrill and rejoice; because the abundance of the sea will be turned to you, the wealth of the nations will come to you "

There's been clouding that these pockets of "real life" have so far been hidden under. Much cleansing and purging and realigning and transforming has gone on, as it were, under cover of darkness.

Many people look for and long for the proper functioning and relating as kingdom family of Father God in the resurrection of our King Jesus. Many know from the Lord there's this coming, and not the version they've seen prominently portrayed before them. True heavenly worship. Real ministry of the Word and laying on of hands. Real authority - the restorative and cleansing and uplifting authority that we saw come forth in the very human and imperfect early elders and apostles as Jesus ministered through them, not to alienate and divide but to rightly align restore and build up. The ministry of Jesus in the character, heart and power of Jesus.

Many have yet to fully recognize this where it has begun to emerge and it has sprung up. This is because of the clouding and obscuring of the full revelation of Jesus in and among His people. Many have been deterred from seeing the beauty and reality of what's really there and that this is INDEED the place for them. It looks on the surface so very like that very wrong bad version they were released from. There are deep deep cuts - to the very bone and into the bone (marrow, source of blood-life) these have experienced and miraculously been restored from. They do not want to be exposed in this way ever again, and hearts and lives have been walled off and separated by mighty fortresses of protection and alternative life structures that do not do them justice nor can they fully be what they truly were made to be.

They fear the same bitter and mortal wounding and so fail to see the reality. Some groups - yes - they may call cults, or "not real church", or maybe some inaccurately see some as some form of church they never wish to return to. And yet - for ALL that have this in them, this longing for the real, for the real Body of Christ, to be part of this, no matter how deep and buried inside worlds of hurt....HE is restoring the lines of communication.

He is sending forth His angels to keep these lines straight and pure and to carry no "brand" other than Him. He is alerting these to open their arms and to prepare for this influx of many, perhaps multitudes who have waited so long to see and come into the reality. The invitation has been issued by the King, and by His overcomers.

I believe that He will make room and a place (is already doing so) for many brothers (male and female) to join up and fully engage.

There's the real version where the ministry of the word goes to thousands at once and yet it will not be like the false regurgitated version. It is TRUE ministry of the word, it will be engaged individually as well as corporately. This is currently occurring on a weekly basis, or perhaps on a monthly, yearly, or daily basis as well. It is as the ministry of Jesus to the multitudes, and to the one. The same exact quality and Spirit would also issue to ONLY one or to ONLY a few, or as many will receive and engage, and is not the clever creation of the individuals. It will carry individual flavor as it flows through individual unique vessels but it will be the SAME Jesus and Spirit. It will be the "words of life". John 6:68-69 (Peter, after many disciples withdrew from Him)

My prayer is the remnant who come into this life of freedom and reality would be far larger than it seems now they could be. There will, yes, be the disciples and the multitudes, or the Overcomer/Bride and the Daughters of Jerusalem. Yes, this is a reality to be sure...He called out 'Come to the waters, come and buy....who have no money' Is 55 calling loudly to ALL. The Spirit and the Bride say 'COME' Rev 22:17.

Jesus prophesied betrayal, hatred, falseness, lawlessness and cold love, among other things, in Matthew 24 and Matthew 10.

There are small glimpses and images of the reality of His work and the condition of things. A minister went once to speak to a group of Belrussian pastors some years ago. The Lord, having given him a word for these then said "do not stand behind the pulpit over and above these men - they are your brothers. I want you to sit before them at their level and do not stand over them and preach over them. come as a brother to a brother" He did so.

A woman was in a home school group with some other families. She and her family used the materials and curriculum (all bible based) to raise up strong men and women of God, to equip and train them and release them. They are in their 20's and worlds beyond where I was by that age and VERY individual and free, and so on. Other families using the SAME program and materials have held an abusive domineering overbearing rule on their kids - one young woman has now in her 20's escaped to the first woman's house. As you'd suspect - some bible verses and phrases and concepts to her are VERY binding and scary for they were used to beat and bind - literally. She fears for her life - she'd run scared and screaming from words and ideas that are loving expressions of the Father. It's not the materials nor the words that are either pure or else defiled. It's the heart and character they have flowed through. She is being restored now, however cannot engage in many good things for the horror she experienced at the hands of very confused and decieved people, and God WILL restore her --- her deep heart is for Him and He has connected her where she can be helped. A MOTHER and FATHER in the kingdom.

God is a restorer of the hearts of the children to the Father, Jesus is the first of many brothers. He is ministering in the spirit and power of Elijah through many who have been in the process of being prepared, cleansed and purified to the extent that He might minister through them in purity and in a restorative and equipping manner.

The Prophetic Church is the one who TOGETHER reveals the fullness of Jesus. Light!



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Posted: 05/26/2008 at 12:17am | IP Logged Quote Mary Lindow

Dear Denise,

YOU SAID:
"God is a restorer of the hearts of the children to the Father, Jesus is the
first of many brothers. He is ministering in the spirit and power of Elijah
through many who have been in the process of being prepared, cleansed
and purified to the extent that He might minister through them in purity
and in a restorative and equipping manner."

This is a most powerful and is spoken through the Spirit of the Lord.
The Father looks deeply into the intent of all hearts, to see whether or not
they are serving Him in life's assignments because of His grace and
mercy, or because of a need to be validated in and by the Body. A very
fine line at times, and only Father sees deeply beyond all explanations,
cloaking and fear!

May the Fathers and Mothers in the faith in all generations, be
continually stirred to train up those whom the Lord sends to them, in the
depth of selflessness, pure motive, and mercy towards those still not yet
able to run the race with a sure foot.

Great insights and writing here Denise! Bless you for risking all for Jesus.


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Posted: 05/27/2008 at 5:48am | IP Logged Quote Denise Detwiler

Right on Mary!  and it seems that what was once the fullness of purity, farther down the road becomes less pure than we imagined, as He continues cleansing us and making us purer. 

He can and will still use us, because He is rich in mercy and He also so greatly loves the world.  Yet we are being called up higher.  And so, where we may have been allowed to once "live", regarding our heart-sets, and prosper -- we will no longer be able to operate and have the Lord's Spirit minister through any longer.  If we refuse the adjustments and surgical cleansing of the Lord and want to remain less than He intends for us to be...there's usually a bit of trouble.

He is a GOOD Father - and never desires or seeks for His kids to remain as small children.  He wants us to come into fullness of maturity in the heart and nature of Christ.

We can celebrate His acts of the past, but really we need not to seek and long to go "back" to them.  Sweet times and golden memories in the past cannot begin to compare with what the future holds as we grow up together in Him.  He has SO much for us!

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My Dear Sister, the Lords Servant,

You posted,

"She is being restored now, however cannot engage in many good things for the horror she experienced at the hands of very confused and deceived people, and God WILL restore her --- her deep heart is for Him and He has connected her where she can be helped. A MOTHER and FATHER in the kingdom."


The Spirit has been talking about totally giving up the concept of "positions" in the church.  Elders should be thought of as fathers and mothers; deacons as aunts and uncles.

My main concern during this Wave of Fire is that the STRUCTURE of what's going on will again be transfered to normal church meetings.  Please note that it's the structure, not the ministry and all the other good things, that's my concern.

The apostolic person and their team is called to plant the Word among people.  After a group of Christians is strengthened and elders and deacons have been selected, the apostle moves on to start the process somewhere else, while still acting as an adviser to the planted church.

IMHO, this apostolic model has been implemented for centuries as the way to continue leadership in local churches, even after they have been established firmly and the apostle has moved on!  Thus, the elder-deacon form of leadership is replaced with a structure headed up with a pastor as a position instead of a gifting.  I'm not saying that a positional pastor can't be gifted as a pastor, just that he is now positioned as super-elder in charge of the local church.

So my point is that when people see a strongly anointed man like Todd calling out miracles, they might come to the conclusion that local structure should mirror this apostolic-evangelical-healing structure in order to be blessed by God.  Please, do not construe this statement as a criticism of Todd: it is not meant to be that at all!  It's just that we have been conditioned by centuries of man's traditions to think and respond beyond what is presented by the biblical accounts.

But Jesus keeps reminding me that "It's My Church, Not Your's", so He is still in control after all!

With His Love,
Dave





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Posted: 05/27/2008 at 11:08am | IP Logged Quote Denise Detwiler

I hear ya there Dave! 

In fact - some of our folks and leaders have gone there now -- and it was stated publicly that we are going there to receive from the Lord but we are NOT going to adopt another man's style or methods..it needed to be said!  We had basically a bunch who WANTED to do things 'that way' and another contingency who feared we might....

Jesus is the indisputable Lord and ruler of His Church (big C) and this also includes all expression all of the way down to the individuals...He will flow in and through each and all differently - but He has all Lordship - we may still be tryng to rule either our own or else others "way outside the lines". 

Any of those He has given leadership or any type of authority will be walking in that fact.  I feel maybe this is a part of why Paul mentions elders ruling their households well...ruling well is NOT total control and keeping them under...Paul is perhaps exhorting to look for the fruit of true leadership emerging in the home as an indication of how they would serve, equip and release others...

Even those folks who might be set to lead must be put there by the Lord.  It's pretty obvious when someone's either not fully fledged (and I don't mean perfect) or else simply not authorized to lead in as much as they are trying to lead in...

Todd is indisputably leading these meetings in Lakeland, from what I hear.  Others there on site are also leading in various areas small and large..and to a certain degree each person present could have a 'jurisdiction' in which they lead (even as far as leading in servanthood by opening a door, giving someone a seat, praying for someone either secretly or openly)  in the true church every person has an important and intergral role...there's not really ever any 'bumps on the log' or 'peons'  -- the guy up front leading the thing is not any better than the little baby in the back row...wow...if we could get ahold of this!!!

We actually have one yr olds who have ministered powerfuly by the Spirit - POWERFULLY! They get it....Lord let them not lose it!!!!

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Posted: 06/10/2008 at 6:03am | IP Logged Quote Denise Detwiler

As the Lord announces the truth of how desperate the times are, and become more desperate and more urgent...small trickles and tiny remnants of people begin to engage and move out into the places we are set.  I have been wondering about my own region, how that, here in Denver where stirrings of this company we might call the Prophetic Church (but not was was called that popularly in the last decade) or we might call the disciples, or the bride church- where this is stirring...where God is moving with His kingdom power - yes, inside the meetings or the believers but also thru the believers as touching business, marketplace encounters, neighbors, family and friends...WHY are there not people RUNNING to join Him infullness? They KNOW it's God moving.  Even Christians...WHY?   WHY do they not meet house to house and place to place and worship DAILY in the larger temple like gatherings as did the early church?  WHY not even ONE of these things?  WHY when they don't "feel so great" don't they seek to join with others to seek God?  WHY? when it's heard and reported by believers and medical professionals the weekly miracles (one grocery clerk was healed by a customer praying for them last week on the spot) WHY is Denver not seeing we are in desperate critical times and the Christians stepping in and the rest of the folks RUNNING to God?  Thousands of kids in Denver do not eat because their working parents cannot afford feeding them.  The government gives a small pittance to needy families...barely enough for a week for an elderly person, the community food banks cannot keep up with the huge influx of yet more who cannot feed their families or themselves...500 houses were foreclosed in my affluent county last month...Adams county has HUGE numbers of foreclosures - they are 30 min away and are #1 in the nation in foreclosures...I regularly view property values and have seen homes bought in 2005 for 200k now valued at 50k as of this past year!!!!  In a few counties.  People OWE more than their house is now worth...

We hear daily of tornadoes (like the ones that wiped out Windsor 20 mins away from me a couple weeks ago and one a few yrs ago that wiped out a town across the mountains from me)  wiping our communitiesand towns..floods, extreme heat...stuff all over the world....

And we have yet to see the wide spread passionate response and engaging and coming together of the church.

Reading in Genesis & Exodus the past couple weeks...I see repeatedly people who 'don't quite' run with God , who don't hang on His every word and who only come along 'part way'  and God begins really addressing this in the wilderness..they try and keep manna overnight, they worry they will starve or die of thirst, they meet Him just part way...not ALL the way.  Those who are gung ho and whole hearted emerge as leaders among the people...the rest die in the wilderness...God really is not after just a few leaders..who stand out like that...He is after a PEOPLE of God...Lord let this be the day that the people made in your image get a hold of this and are brilliant light in the darkness...the express image of Jesus on earth....



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Posted: 06/10/2008 at 6:40am | IP Logged Quote Denise Detwiler

these are ONLY the healings occurring in the larger temple type gatherings...just the tip of the iceberg of ALL God's doing in areas of provision, promotion, salvations, deliverance, healing...and yet this is a tiny trickle to what needs to be...dd

 

5/20/08

Hi members and friends of New Song,

At this writing, Ray and Inez Saragosa are returning from the Florida outpouring. By Sunday, June 1, six more of us will have gone and returned, including Beth and me, our youth pastor Nate, the Grossos and John Borkowski. Look for an explosion of anointing on June 1 when we loose on the rest of you what we all have gained.

Meanwhile, the increase in healing power is already evident. Last Sunday a hearing impairment was healed spontaneously in the glory of God during worship. One of our musicians was experiencing growing pain and inflammation in her arm that made it exceedingly difficult even to hold up her instrument. Healed. An arthritic foot was healed. At the close of service on Sunday night a young man with serious pain in his knees had experienced substantial improvement by the sovereign touch of God during worship and was receiving prayer for the completion of the healing. This is all in addition to the two cases of nodules on lungs that were seen in CAT scans but that disappeared after prayer - and the brother who received prayer for the kidney stones that were visible on a CAT scan. He was gowned up and prepped for surgery when he heard the doctors talking outside the door about the disappearing kidney stones that could no longer be seen in a CAT scan. He got dressed and went home.

God is on the move and it's only going to get better. Be there this week and especially June 1.

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5/20 08

Brothers and sisters,

Please don't tire of the glory reports. You will be getting more of these in days to come as we encourage the saints with what God is doing. There's yet another healing to report from last Sunday. Here's the quote from the email I received from Star Wiklund:

"I was recently in a car accient (march 29th 08) and got a severe case of whip-lash(on top of my other 43 medical conditions) I had severe pain and was on very strong pain patch's and pain pills and musle relaxers. I had phycical theapy 2 times a week. As of thursday I was still at pain level 8 and p/theapy 1 time a week. I went forward for healing. I just came from p/theapy and the doctor. I am healed the whip-lash is completley GONE!!
PRAISE GOD!!!!!! "

I expect much more when Beth and I and others have returned from Lakeland. We leave Monday, May 26 and return Friday, May 30. Don't let yourself miss what God is doing!

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Loren Sandford
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5/21/08

Trudy F. just posted this on Myspace. It's yet another healing report resulting from prayer at New Song last Sunday. God is on the move and it's only going to get bigger! Here's what she wrote:

"I have recently been dealing with RA (Rheumatoid Arthritis), This has been gong on for over 4 months now. God and his mighty power has now taken away a majority of the swelling that is a big part of it and there has been no pain for over 2 and a half days. I just wanted to let everyone know that God is present and wanting to heal all who is in need of healing. Please let this be a encouragement that it will happen."

I never like to report a healing like this on the day it seems to happen. Excitement, anointing, endorphines, all can mask pain that returns later. But after a few days, when the pain stays away and there is measurable, quantifiable change, it's time to report and praise God!

God bless,
Loren Sandford
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6/3/08

Hi folks,

MORE HEALING TESTIMONIES! There may be more not yet reported, but these have been reported from this last week.

A word of knowledge was given during worship on Sunday morning concerning someone with an injury to the left arm that had not healed properly and was giving a lot of pain. Ron Olin came forward after the service to say that he had sustained an injury to his left elbow that had been refusing to heal over a long period of time and that had been causing a lot of pain. His pain was completely relieved and it remained healed by prayer time (People of Prayer) on Monday night.

Angela Joliff has had daily pain in her ears from infections for a number of years. God touched her powerfully during worship on Sunday night and the pain vanished. Monday morning she awoke to the absence of any pain for the first time in years and by Monday night she remained pain free.

Virginia Fishburn (did I spell her last name right?) has had arthritis in her left foot for a number of years, resulting in a deformity and preventing her even from working in her garden, much less dancing before the Lord. During People of Prayer on Monday night we soaked her foot in prayer. As the evening progressed, the swelling and size of the deformity visibly diminished and by evening's end she was able to jump up and down on that foot without pain for the first time.

Trudy Fedder's rheumatoid arthritis remains completely healed now 2 1/2 weeks after prayer. The swelling is gone, as is the pain, and she has taken no medication in all that time.

Denise Detwiler received prayer two weeks ago for such severe pain in one arm that it nearly prevented her from being able to play her violin on the worship team. It had been building for weeks prior. After prayer on Sunday morning the pain vanished in an afternoon. She remains pain free.

There are a number of others, but this is a sampling. God is moving in His power and His love and we gratefully receive it!

God bless,
Loren Sandford
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6/8/08

Hi folks,

Harriet Younger came to church Sunday morning with pain in every joint and was sovereignly healed and completely relieved of pain during worship.

This next is considerably more dramatic. Here's the quote from the email I received from Star Wiklund: "I want to report healing, today at church. As I know so many have been praying for healing for me for years now at New Song. Well the doctors did a upper & lower G.I. and I use to have:
ulcers
I.B.S. (irritable bowel syndrome)
upper reflux
coltis
diverticulatis
lower bowell sydrome
They could find no proof on any of the tests that these 6 yes SIX medical conditions are in my body."

Doctor verified healing! It doesn't come much better than this! God is moving! Don't miss it! The glory is growing! We anticipate many more reports!

God bless,
Loren Sandford
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Posted: 06/10/2008 at 5:48pm | IP Logged Quote Denise Detwiler

jun 10 08

This one is from Mark VanderStoep and it happened Sunday. Here's the quote from his email:

"At yesterday’s call for healing in joints, I remained at the back. When I saw the size of the response, I didn’t want to risk anything getting in the way of my responsibilities with the ushers/greeters. Nonetheless, I joined everyone in prayer. I have had a long history of knee problems, including bolts of pain that would literally put me down on the floor. Surgery some years ago only gave me temporary relief. During the prayer, I began testing my right knee (the main problem) and it seemed that the pain had lessened. I went out to the foyer and tried the stairs. I trotted up and down the stairs, without the use of the handrails and without pain! I grabbed Danny Hagen and Steve Horn and had to show them. Danny noticed there was even a difference in my walk. At the risk of being one 'of little faith', I tested it this morning. I’m using the stairs at work (we’re on the third floor) as easily as the stairs at church. I even did a deep knee bend! (At that point, I notice that I’m going to have to re-train some muscles.) I actually got a cramp…but no knee problem! I’m presently having to re-learn walking without a limp in addition to reconditioning some leg muscles. Incidentally…I’ve taken no pain medication today. I’m looking forward to being able to walk the golf courses! Jesus heals!"

God is moving and you don't want to miss any of it! See you in church!

God bless,
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Posted: 06/10/2008 at 6:03pm | IP Logged Quote Denise Detwiler

also today -- I was once again asked to go pray for my coworker's very ill mother.  she is the only one in her family who speaks fluent English.  When I arrived there was the Mexican lady who cares for her mother during the day, one of the brothers, one of the sisters, my friend and the mama.

My friend had felt prompted to ask me to call on 'another person who has healing gifts like you' I said 'oh-I know lots of people' but settled on one person who has a significant healing anointing.  He wasn't able to meet us today.

Then her one sister (one of 6 sisters) wanted us to await her arrival to pray.  When we prayed (yes I invited ALL to pray) she was very engaged...then she asked for prayer for a physical condition and the Lord revealed to me she is a healer and I spoke and prayed into it...it turns up she IS one! had wandered from the Lord and life was sort of a mess...anyhow she said what I specifically prayed (and partly to turn up what she'd walked in before) as well as several other things...spoke precisely to her situaion...and she was awakened and set some stuff right...so she then in particular ministered with me to everyone else, including mama again who wanted more....and everyone in the house both asked for and received ministry, and joined in ministry...all for some pretty intense stuff...

Told my friend "here you had the healer in the house all along!"

Also of some significance was that mama was walking on her own with the help of a walker BEFORE we got there for the first time in days or more.  And there was a HUGE angel accompanying her, from God, which more than one of us could sense....everyone kept telling me I brought it, but it was SPECIFICALLY connected with mama. 

I am looking forward to hearing ongoing reports of the confidential work God did in more than one person's heart there as well as their bodies...I made sure the gospel of repentance was preached and JESUS was lifted up as our healer and ALL were encouraged to relate directly with God...

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6/11/08 From Inez Saragosa: The healing that I received was two weeks ago at church - the 25th during worship. My knee injury was a result of two accidents that happened within the last 4 years. The first one was in Toronto. When I returned back from that trip I had to go through Physical Therapy and numerous tests because of the injury. That therapy didn’t work. The next one was when we were on one of the missions trips and I fell on that same knee again up in the canyon. They had to take me to the hospital in Chinlee where I not only mess my knee again, but I also sprained my foot bad. I have had a knee that locks and it feels like needles are in the knee, and if I would touch it in any way it hurts. When I would walk up and down stairs it would lock on me and was painful. Even at times when I rejoiced before the Lord it would hurt but I missed praising and worshipping God in that capacity so many times I would do it anyway and take the drugs afterwards. The Sunday t hat God healed my knee I was in the flow of the Holy Spirit while we were worshipping and I felt like a yo yo going up and down up and down. I was jumping continuously with not realizing what was going on. I realize that it didn’t hurt afterwards and I didn’t have to take any drugs when I got home or later on that night. I was quite surprised and said to myself, “I will see throughout the week what happens when I have to go up and down the stairs at home and at work.” On this past Sunday I got up was going to wash my hair in the sink and I decided to wash it in the main bathroom tub. I was hesitant at first because I knew I would have to kneel down and thought for a minute that I really can’t do that because of the pain in my knee when I kneel. I remember hearing from the Lakeland meetings try something that you haven’t done in a long time. I decided to kneel there was no pain. Was worshipping jumping up and down and dancing on Sunday no pain. I can bend my knee no pain. Going up and down the stairs no pain. Three weeks free of no pain. Thank you Jesus!
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Posted: 06/12/2008 at 5:38am | IP Logged Quote Denise Detwiler

Tornado hits Scout Camp - at least 4 dead, 48 injured

Tornadoes also touched down in Kansas, Minnesota and Nebraska on Wednesday. They killed at least two people in northern Kansas, destroyed much of the small town of Chapman and caused extensive damage on the Kansas State University campus.

In Iowa, rescue workers cut their way through downed branches and dug through debris amid rain and lightning Wednesday night to reach the camp where the 93 boys, ages 13 to 18, and 25 staff members were attending a weeklong leadership training camp.

The boys were split into two groups when the storm hit the Little Sioux Scout Ranch in the remote Loess Hills. One group managed to take shelter, while the other was out hiking.

At least 42 of the injured remained hospitalized Thursday morning, with everything from cuts and bruises to major head trauma, said Gene Meyer, Iowa's public safety commissioner. At least four of the injured had been airlifted from the camp, he said, refusing to elaborate on their conditions or identify the dead.

"Our thoughts and prayers are with the victims and the families of the victims," Gov. Chet Culver said. "We continue to do everything we can to make sure those injured are going to recover."

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Posted: 06/13/2008 at 5:52am | IP Logged Quote Denise Detwiler

Flood Puts City in Iowa 'at God's Mercy'

By AMY LORENTZEN,
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Posted: 2008-06-13 06:02:46
 

"We're just kind of at God's mercy right now, so hopefully people that never prayed before this, it might be a good time to start," Linn County Sheriff Don Zeller said. "We're going to need a lot of prayers and people are going to need a lot of patience and understanding."

Officials estimated that 3,200 homes were evacuated and some 8,000 residents displaced.

Days of heavy rain across the state have sent nine rivers across Iowa at or above historic flood levels. Residents were already steeling themselves for floods before storms late Wednesday and early Thursday brought up to 5 inches of rain across west central Iowa.

"We are seeing a historic hydrological event taking place with unprecedented river levels occurring," said Brian Pierce, a meteorologist with the National Weather Service in Davenport. "We're in uncharted territory — this is an event beyond what anybody could even imagine."

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Posted: 06/13/2008 at 5:58am | IP Logged Quote Denise Detwiler

GOD IS NOT JUDGING AMERICA, BUT....
Pastor R Loren Sandford
As I prayed about the California fires that have displaced more than a million people over the last week, the Lord prompted me to review the journal I keep of what the Lord has told me.  Here is a representative entry:

3/16/06 THURSDAY
God: "Dark days of fear are coming." 
Me: "I feel it already.  What else is new?"
God: "Urban disasters are coming.  Fires are burning and disasters are coming.  Ancient hatreds.  Anger.  There are too few.  Too few to stem the tide.  Worsening containment."

When in our history have we seen anything like the burning that has driven more than a million people from their homes in the largest metropolitan area in the U.S.?  And with winds that have made containment impossible?  The Lord has spoken to me many times since Hurricane Katrina about winds and fires.  The mega-disaster in California is only the worst of many that have happened since that time. 

I do not say God is judging America.  I do say that the angel of the Lord encamps around those who fear Him (Psalm 34:7) and that America no longer qualifies for that favor and protection.  As a nation we no longer fear Him.  Over recent decades we have systematically ruled God out of public life, passed laws to enforce it, and have abandoned His laws as a culture.  We were founded as a Christian nation, but have rejected that heritage, even writing it out of the history our children are taught in schools.  For many years the debate has raged, but recently the Lord clearly told me that the debate has ended.  Arguments over various issues may continue, but the cultural decision is settled and fixed and will not be changed.  Because of this, we stand now on our own as a nation, no more or less favored or protected than any other people on the planet.  We must now take our lumps and reap the consequences of our sin on an equal footing with everyone else, no longer enjoying the special favor and grace that has sustained us to this point.  In all the misfortunes and disasters that have befallen us in recent years - and in those yet to come - this loss of extraordinary divine protection and favor is the cause.

"Lighthouse churches" will therefore play a key role in days to come as cities of refuge for those who come to realize that sin doesn't work and who will be seeking a better way. More on this in a later bulletin.  Meanwhile, think "pockets of revival", "signs and wonders" and "demonstrations of power" all undergirded by awe-producing love.

As I prayed today, I received the following that I believe applies to the world, not just the U.S.:

10/25/07 THURSDAY
I had the following sense: A mega-disaster is coming, like it’s edging closer, and it will strike before rising seas from global warming becomes a real issue. 
Me: "If true, Lord, what to do?"
God: "Pray that they may see the true importance of it, that they turn to Me.  Signs and wonders.  Hidden tactics of the enemy.  I am there to rescue you and you need have no fear."
Me: "When?" 
God: "The near future." 
Me: "Whose 'near'?  Yours or mine?" 
God: "Bush will not finish out his term before it strikes."

Please take the timeline (my question of "when") with a grain of salt.  I humbly say that I haven't always been accurate with timelines, so please don't hold me to that, except the part about it coming before the rising seas become a problem.  I have, however, been very accurate at hearing God for the actual facts.

So we are being called to prayer, not so much for disaster to be averted, but for the church to rise in the midst as a beacon of hope and healing and shine as it should.  Please pray.  The hour is urgent.
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Posted: 07/18/2008 at 6:38am | IP Logged Quote Denise Detwiler

this is one of the spiritual elements in which the prophetic church (the true church of Jesus/body of Jesus) functions:

KINGDOM MATH

The numbers never work in the kingdom!  When figured out by earthly mathematical guidelines things just never add up.  The kingdom is a kingdom of increase.  Once a person begins to step into the kingdom of God, spirit realm in any area then what would have been impossible under the natural laws God set into place becomes not only possible, but natural and simple.
 
For example, when a person is traveling or else needs to travel there are literally infinite ways the kingdom may manifest which has nothing to do with the set laws of the natural universe.  For example, a person may make the trip either by being physically or else spiritually moved to a different location.  Time might be bent, meaning they might have seemed to be in the location for a short time but what is accomplished might have taken much longer operating under the natural laws.  Money and resources for the trip may come together in very unexplainable ways.  Or existing money will mysteriously cover far more than it should.  Unexplainable discounts and even free giveaways may occur along the way.  And more.
 
A man in Africa went to demonstrate this to some people he was teaching about the kingdom several years ago.  He left on foot with no money and no car, in Africa, with an old tire.  I don't remember the entire amazing journey as he told it.  But he arrived home some time later after a series of divine appointments and seeming happenstance's with a load of cash, never having been without food or shelter.  He did not go knocking on doors nor  the normal human things that are done when someone is alone with nothing and nobody.  He just simply followed it along. God did the rest.
 
When one is entering kingdom finance one may stop balancing their bank accounts, may give away all their money at unlikely times and even maybe to unlikely seeming people.  When a person like this gives, what they give may spread far more and have more than just a financial quality, it's kingdom money so it may have significant life-changing or world-changing ability.  A person living in this after some time will not ever resort to sitting down and trying to work through the numbers to find out how it works.  By then this person would be simply and freely just moving with Him in it.  They no longer bother nor worry much about these things.  The person may repeatedly be given spontaneous discounted prices and needed items and may be repeatedly baffled by how much a certain amount of money will buy.  Again and again money will "appear" from unexpected sources to cover needs and obligations. 
 
In the kingdom functioning of the body of Christ, one may find the same baffling results.  For example in a 2 1/2 to 3 1/2 hour long meeting, exactly how is it that the quality and quantity of mutual fellowship and ministry could possibly be accomplished?  How could one person, for example, significantly function to and with a minimum of 10 to 20 others in the room in the amount of time allotted?  Not meaning the "shotgun approach" so many have functioned in.  But real and powerful functioning and ministry.  Life changing stuff.  Anything from healing body or heart, to deliverance, to encouraging, loving, blessing, prophecy, giving, prayer for and with, and so on. 
 
Part of this, as with the other examples given, involves ceasing from the boxed variety of thinking that says it all has to be broken up in a certain way.  One must be simple enough and free enough not to allow this to limit things.  A person immediately halts the flow, for example, of kingdom cash if they say "I couldn't possibly accept from (or give to) THAT source!  It doesn't "work" that way."  Thus moving into rigid structure and the need to know with precision.  So in the meeting, there could be many things happening at once.  There could be ministry, healing, giving and prophecy going on during the time of corporate worship - both between members and direct from God, or through the many angels gathered.  There could be people who gather or move about for an hour or longer in clusters and doubles and groups functioning and ministering.  Some of whom might continue this in a restaurant or home or via Internet chat or spirit to spirit.  Much is done spirit to spirit in these kingdom gatherings, thus expanding and increasing what may seem small and inept to outside critical eyes. 
 
Well, there's far more involving not despising or rejecting any instrument He may choose to use and not moving in such complicated and weighed down thinking patterns...but that's enough for now!
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Posted: 08/02/2008 at 4:09pm | IP Logged Quote Denise Detwiler

Hi Folks,

This most recent week at New Song was a kind of a pause in the
progression of healings while we were confronted with our need to fear
God and act accordingly. It became a day for strong repentance. You can
hear the message in streaming audio by clicking HERE
www.newsongfellowship.org . It's available on
CD through our online bookstore as well.

Nevertheless, there were two significant healing reports.

From Veronica Taylor, 7/27/08:
I, Pastor Loren, had just started our announcement video running when
Veronica called me over. She was sitting directly in front of one of our
floor mounted PA speakers with the sound blasting at her back. She told
me she had had a deaf ear, but that it had been getting getting better,
and she wanted me to pray for her for more. I did so, then whispered in
her bad ear while the sound kept blaring at her from just a foot behind
her. I asked if she could hear my whisper. She could!

Many of the healings we have been experiencing have been sovereign
touches. God has simply done it, without the usual laying on of hands or
other direct human agency. The following appears to be one of them.
From Ray Saragosa, 7/27/08:
My right foot has been turning more and more to the right with the bone
below my big toe sticking out more and more with an increase in pain,
even if I barely touched it. This was effecting everything - my ability to
ski, dance, walk etc. When I went to my foot doctor for orthotics and
shots in the foot he said the only thing they could do for the deformity
that was increasing was surgery and that there was no guarantee and that
it would in all likelihood only grow worse. Since the healing revival broke
out in Lakeland I didn't even notice until all of a sudden I was massaging
my foot and the pain was gone and I told Inez (wife) and she looked at
my foot and excitedly responded that my foot was also straightening out.
God in his sovereignty has healed it and is straightening out what was
crooked or making that which was crooked straight.

More precious than any of the healings at New Song in recent days has
been the wonderful presence of God in worship, deep, powerful and
refreshing. He's about new things!

God bless,
Loren Sandford
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http://www.newsongfellowship.org/

I, Denise was also nudged a number of times to whisper first in one and
then in the other ear Veronica was so excited about her hearing. I finally
had to ask her to stop. She was understandably delighted, however I
wanted to hear what was being said just then.

This message of the awe and fear of God, honor, and repentance I believe
is absolutely of great importance and key to functioning as an expression
of our Father God.

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Posted: 08/02/2008 at 5:33pm | IP Logged Quote Denise Detwiler

another recent event of God glorifying and expressing Himself in the
earth through His yet to be fully assembled body came about in my
workplace.

a woman became ill early this year with cancer. in January a third of her
lung was removed. she is a godly woman like a beam of sunshine
everywhere she goes. single mother of a young teen boy. byMay she was
having bad and worsening pain in her head. now I was not allowed to go
pray for her regarding the lung surgery in the hospital nor hands on in
any setting. others went and prayed for her, however. many in the
workplace but especially the the other Christians really stepped in for her.
when she returned to work I had a bad virus type thing and avoided her
for a couple weeks so as not to make her ill. she had to be very careful.

finally they found that it was not her treatments causing her severe head
pain and loss of balance etc. she had two cancerous tumors in her brain.
one operable the other not. they gave her a maximum of two months to
live. this was when the authority and the sending awakened in me to go
pray with her in hospital.

she was a brilliant light in the room and her mother and brother were
there as well from other parts of the country. she said "o-if you are
praying for me, then pray what I am praying! pray this cancer totally goes
away and I completely recover!" I told her this was EXACTLY what I was
feeling to pray. (just an aside, I do not ever seek to make up my own
prayers. if God doesnt give me one I pray in silence or in tongues. i
won't say I am flawless in my hearing, but I seek never just to pray
whatever sounds good)

So we invited the other two to join us and we prayed "just that". And
mainly it was I who prayed. Simple and direct.

she was to have the surgery 5 days later, and our small prayer fellowship
"people of prayer" was scheduled that Monday. we prayed for her and my
intent was to pray for her again Tuesday before the surgery on
Wednesday. But everything was pushed up and rushed. We normally do
not pray lists and requests, but it's more of a prophetic type gathering or
revelatory and wider reaches. But that night I felt to bring a photo of her
and her son to pray about this situation. as we prayed, Loren prayed
exactly almost word for word what I had prayed for her in the hospital
bed. he also rebuked the spirit of death. Jo prayed very specifically about
her son, many things she had not been told. others prayed very
specifically. then as a wrap up I prayed "Lord, YOU be glorified in this!"
and just at that moment a long rumble of thunder came.

many others in the workplace were praying for her and another church,
where one of my employees attends, only blocks from our building, were
praying every Sunday for the healing. Also - the same Monday night
mentioned above, my employee who just met the Lord a few months ago
was crying and praying...about the same exact time we were praying. A
peace came over her and she fell fast asleep and didnt hear the thunder.

Our coworker, unknown to us, was actually having and completing the
removal of one tumor exactly at that time! A great concern was that she
would lose her cognition and speech. Not so! As soon as the anesthesia
wore off she was totally with it!!

A week or two later the sever horrible pain returned. There was a great
deal of worry this was her end. When they looked the surgery was
bleeding so the surgeon decided to put in a shunt. He also decided the
second tumor didn't look inoperable after all! So he took it out too!
Again she awoke TOTALLY with it!

A few days later she was up walking with her therapist and my boss went
to go see her. She and her family had JUST received the great news!!! Her
blood work shows she is completely cancer free!!!! When my boss
emailed the entire company (she's the VP, wife of the Pres) thanking all
for all the prayers, support and "good thoughts"...I was walking all over
my office (one of the three offices) and GOD WAS GETTING ALL THE
GLORY!!!!!! EVERYONE was talking about and in their various ways
praising God!

Now yesterday...a few weeks later...the coworker came in the office with
her mother. Mom's face lit up and beamed brilliantly when our eyes
met...there were many hugs and she is preparing to return to her job
soon...

what was awesome in all this, is that MANY parts and types prayed and
we ALL saw GOD ALONE be glorified. we were merely the vehicle for
Jesus Christ to be seen in the business.

Because of her job position and her shinning personality, this little gal is
known in ALL three of our offices and loved by all....glory to God!
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Posted: 08/02/2008 at 8:04pm | IP Logged Quote Kathy Bippus

Wonderful testimony Denise! Praise God!

I totally appreciate this part as well in what you've shared here.." (just an aside, I do not ever seek to make up my own
prayers. if God doesnt give me one I pray in silence or in tongues. i
won't say I am flawless in my hearing, but I seek never just to pray
whatever sounds good) "

 This gives very little place then for quite a bit of the` flakiness' and it's called being led of the Spirit. I so appreciate you sharing this and yes we are all learning in our hearing(taught) of Holy Spirit in each moment and each situation, etc.

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There is a major shift going on and the one thing I believe is that God is showing us that He does not live in the box...and He is calling us to expand our mental horizions....He will use those who thinkradically as in Lakeland...This to me is wonderful...this kind of thinking will lead to tapping into the miraculous, signs and wonders...from the DEEP...

WOW....how I want mor of God in this manner....its my hearts cry....

When someone is afraid of change that makes me concerned....they think....well that;s not how we use to do that  OOPS sounds sad...u..c

to me........God loves and has created all to be the way He wants them to be  for His purpose...I am an artist and singer....I have not really felt like I really fit into the standard type of church....but there are a whole lot of people I can reach that the business type person cannot...I have the abitity to go into the devils camp and witness for Christ...a bar...where many fear to go....but I am not....I am not an alcoholic and that is not a pull on me...besides I know when it is and I have trained my flesh...yet I am very careful to make sure I go with God and not on my own........that would be trouble...

Jesus went into the bars and I am sure He didnot stand on a soap box preaching on how sinful it is to be a drunk....

I lead a man to Christ right there in a bar and trears came down his cheeks when I told him that Jesus loved him...the Holy Spirit was very strong...I am glad that I had that opportunity....I would not suggest it for every one you may get caught but I am just trying to say........step out of the BOX!!!!  or even off it......



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Posted: 08/02/2008 at 8:39pm | IP Logged Quote Ti Anna Sheaves

Oh ya I forgot that I wanted to add that
a friend of mine had a vision from the Lord .....he was up in the heavens looking down at the earth and starting in the USA  a firework like a roman candle start and get bigger till it threw out a fireball that would go high into the air and then land .........then the process sould happen again and again...then it started to throw these fireballs into the nations....

 

 believe this to be scripture as somewhere it says I will build a nation out of which I will bless all nations....from here to the NATIONS...Amen



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Amen Kathy & Ti Ana! Tremendous report Ti Ana of the visit to the bar!

A lady I know, so dear and I can so see much God's created her to be....is
caught in both an addiction and an "alternative" life style....well at first
she was very frightened and worried to be around me and I just called
forth the God-created qualities in her and loved her past all the stuff.
She just recently confided in me that she has been watching Joyce Meyer
on TV late at night, and loves her!   

It was said recently at church, and has been said many times over many
years....what do we do when someone walks in who is --- oh I don't
know, maybe deep into occult or whatever sort of thing may be on the
"list" in the NT scripture. Do we love them and call forth what they were
really made to be and shake them loose from whatever binds...bringing
them or at least calling them to a real life with God?

Some of the reason we have not is because we really do not know WHO
GOD IS and nextly WHO WE ARE! And so instead we "pray against them"
or mount the soapbox...

The lady above, I have for years gently called her what she is, what she's
made to be. I have watched her going deeper and further in the opposite
direction. This recent confession is awesome! This didn't come from me,
I am only doing my tiny part...others also have done parts...it takes us
ALL together to reveal the full BODY of Jesus.

One of the young guys recently was fired from his job for healing people
on the sales floor. The store manager asked him to say he would never
do it anymore. He told the boss he couldn't make this promise, because it
depended on God. This is a guy in his 20's with a young family to
support. He was fired. He had an awesome attitude about it. He said he
guessed he was in the full time ministry until he got another job. He has
one now, I believe. And possibly one that will be a greater financial
opportunity. When he decided to keep God as his King (and he wasn't
being a flake) he remained in the kingdom....huge test for this young
family!

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Posted: 08/03/2008 at 12:17pm | IP Logged Quote Kathy Bippus

amen Ti Ana and DD,

Christ-ianity verses religianity( lol..religinaity..not sure if that's a word). One Life's, the other kills. Both will produce instantly as well as over time, it's fruit. One delivers relationship, the other division. One is outward in be-ing, the other is all about outward in do-ing. One is be-ing about our Father's business where true contentment resides, the other is busyness where discontentment resides. One restores, heals, renews/makes new, makes whole, the other flat wears out, steals, destroys and kills. One is a life lived in God( Father, Son, Holy Spirit), the other is knowledge, intellect about God( Father, Son, Holy Spirit) and so one is existence and the other non-existence. One will speak( whether word or deed) too come into the Father's Love, the other will keep out, speaking( whether word or deed) fear. One lifts up and into the Kingdom of Light, the other binding to the kingdom of darkness.

As Ti Ana's signature says...Freedom! Absolutely unequivocally! Like the fireball shooting out and landing, then into the nations...a nation within the nations...fire purging the heavens and earth of the spirit of hypocricy = religion = death.

"For the law( governing) of the Spirit of Life in Christ Jesus has made me free from the law(governing) of sin and death." and " The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised, To preach the acceptable year of the Lord"

 

DD, i just used your example of waiting and hearing Holy Spirit and being led of verses in our own strength or what we think we know, doing, etc. His Authority, rule over is then made known on earth as it is in heaven and His will is done

 



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