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Topic: 7 Thunders Thunders of Restoration
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Karen Samford
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Posted: 10/17/2012 at 9:42am
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1 Sam 12:14 – If ye will fear the LORD, and serve him,
and obey his voice, and not rebel against the commandment
of the LORD, then shall both ye and also the king that
reigneth over you continue following the LORD your God:
But if ye will not obey the voice of the LORD, but rebel
against the commandment of the LORD, then shall the hand
of the LORD be against you, as it was against your
fathers. Is it not wheat harvest to day? I will call
unto the LORD, and he shall send thunder and rain; that
ye may perceive and see that your wickedness is great,
which ye have done in the sight of the LORD, in asking
you a king. So Samuel called unto the LORD; and the LORD
sent thunder and rain that day: and all the people
greatly feared the LORD and Samuel.
Purpose – The people placed Moses (prophet), Samuel
(priest), and a king (Saul) to rule over them. God
answers them with thunder and a voice that calls for
ultimate reconciliation and restoration of God’s people
back to Himself – FACE TO FACE.
The people of God had made a prophet to mediate between
them and God as they stood off the mountain, and then a
priest to stand in the gap between their enemies, and now
a king to rule over them. The early church did not have
a dividing line of clergy and laity. This latter church
of ours has alienated herself just as the Israelites had
done. Starting with the Catholic Church into present day
prophetic movements, we still see this same alienation.
This alienation did not surprise God; He prophesied it in
the seven thunders. This alienation did not start with
God’s people in the church of the Middle Ages, it was an
alienation seen in God’s people in the days of Moses,
Samuel and Saul.
The 7th thunder is the final thunder, the perfect
thunder. It must accomplish completely what God had set
out to do since the 1st thunder. It started in
alienation and it must end in total reconciliation. It
must end in a unity, a gathering together of all God’s
people with God Himself! It cannot end with the people
at the base of the mountain, it cannot end with God’s
people standing afar off, and it cannot end with God’s
people setting up prophets to hear and meet God for them.
We got men going to heaven for us, and we say, “We need
their prophecies,” and “we need their newest
revelations.” Now listen up for God’s thunderous voice –
NO MORE!!! God will no longer allow you to have a pastor
/ Moses or the prophetic seer of your choice… to stand
IN-BETWEEN. So what does God do about it? He sends
thunder to deal with the final thing that stands before
Him and man – OTHER MEN. There is a perfect gift of
ministry through men of God, but it is the people’s
RESPONSE to ministry gifts that God is after not the
ministers themselves. I am a minister therefore do not
misunderstand and think I am talking about the
destruction of ministry. I am talking about the
destruction of the vegetation that we are wearing. It is
vegetation that places a minister between God and us.
This last vegetation rests in the finish work and
experiences of the minister instead of resting in our own
face-to-face relationship with God. All ministers that
hear the 7th thunderous voice of God will simply move out
of the way and go up WITH THE PEOPLE.
I have spoken before about the false doctrine of
shepherdship or shepherding in this book. I have a
hatred for this leaven more than other false doctrines
that I encounter. I watched nice people get destroyed
because of it and it almost destroyed me years ago, but
that is not why I hate this sin so much. After seeing
the 7th thunder, I realized that it is a leaven that
utterly alienates man from God by placing a “minister” in
between you and Jesus. Unfortunately, they are not quite
the caliber of Moses, but even if they were, if we will
listen to God’s thunderous voice, it says NO MORE.
No more shall I have a man between Me and My people. No
more shall man rule My people and become a crutch for My
people. The time for kings is over, the time for priests
is over, and the times for prophets are over for I have
called my entire people to be My prophet, priests, and
king. I have called My people to reign with Me face-to-
face in an intimacy that can be found only on My bosom.
This is no place for those that are timid, no place for
those that are weak, it a place for My Gideons who will
fight to get to a place of rest with Me that cannot be
counterfeited and cannot be mastered. Those who try to
stand in-between shall be removed, they are opposed to
the 7th thunder of My awesome voice saith the Lord.
So Samuel says that the 7th thunder will show us the
great wickedness that we have done in the sight of God in
asking for a king. When the thunder CAME the people SAW.
They perceived how great that wickedness was, they saw
their wickedness in asking for a human mediator and
repented. Their wicked King Saul would be replaced by
King David who represented the only King we would ever
serve, the King from Heaven. After the 7th thunder
sounds, it results in the following verse:
1 Sam 12:20-22 – … the Lord has been pleased to make you
a people for Himself!
After the 7th thunder ends, God reveals to us WHY. All
of these thunders happen finally to bring us to a place
where we habitually live in Him, for Him and WE BECOME
HIS! It pleased Him to sound the thunders to make you a
people for Him. God takes pleasure with a people
reconciled to Him and no longer alienated in any way.
God takes pleasure in having redeemed you from the curse
of the law and of the ground – for Himself. You are for
Him, not for anyone standing in-between. Your favorite
minister cannot be your voice of God any longer; it must
be God Himself. Your pastor cannot be your king, your
discerner, or your sole adviser. God must be your
Husband now. The gift of men can be partaken from,
whether it is my gift to you or your pastor’s – but it
ends there. I am bringing you to the base of the
mountain but it is up to you to proceed upwards. I
cannot go for you and you cannot go for me. I plead with
you to go and do not look back, He is up there waiting
for you and all He desires is that you come boldly to His
throne of grace and obtain the mercy to Love Him Face-to-
Face without shame and nakedness ever again. Never
standing aloof, and never shrinking back. Listening to
every precious word, He is speaking to you, and believing
every one of them. We must stand at the top of the
mountain; we must abide in Him, in agreement. Not
contrary to what He teaches, not contrary to the path He
destines for us. There is embrace at the top and there
is humble obedience as well. Self-preservation,
vegetation, and sin are remembered as dead things, long
buried. Our life, our entire walk is now hid in Him. As
our heart melts for Him, we are willing to have our very
bodies melted for His testimony. Thus is the life of one
found at God’s mountaintop.
The 7th thunder of Revelation sounds for what becomes the
completion of the entire plan of redemption. It pleased
God to make you a people unto Himself. Not a people that
do what she wants, say what she wants, and chooses the
brand of Christianity she wants. You have become a
people He takes pleasure in – without spot, wrinkle, or
blemish.
Rev 19:6-9 – And I heard as it were the voice of a great
multitude, and as the voice of many waters, and as the
voice of mighty thunderings, saying, Halleluia (Praise ye
God): for the Lord God omnipotent reigneth. Let us be
glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the
marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made
herself ready. And to her was granted that she should be
arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine
linen is the righteousness of saints. And he saith unto
me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the
marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, These
are the true sayings of God.
My brethren, this is the final voice of God’s thunder.
We must observe the finality, the completeness, and the
perfection of what God is saying from His thunder. We
are granted, we are called, and we are blessed to have
this marriage invitation. If you have yet to choose
Jesus then we must not wait any longer. We have made the
initial commitment but now let us make our FINAL
COMMITMENT! Jesus wants you reserved for Him and your
past has no bearing on your future. Whatever defilement,
whatever tragedy and whatever pains you have – becomes
swallowed up if we will commit to the MOST EXCELLENT WAY
of our Lord Jesus. If we are attached to anything unlike
Jesus – commit to cast it off now. If we have accepted
doctrine that Jesus does not agree with then purge it out
of your bread. If we have failed to serve Jesus with our
whole being and have not given Him total authority over
our lives then let us repent and go up to the mountain of
our Lord. Without shame, without nakedness we are
clothed with Jesus Who is sufficient in the eyes of our
God. Our lives are to be a sweet fragrance to His nose;
our lives are to be good fruit, eaten of by our brethren,
and our lives stand as judgment against those that refuse
the covenant of God. Cry out to God for mercy and cry
out to God for the grace to enter in by faith to the rest
of God where we cease from works and are instead clothed
in His glory. Do not let your race become disqualified
by fainting, by standing aloof, or by accepting teachings
that do not resemble Jesus and His glorious plan of total
reconciliation. It is how you finish the race that
counts. Do not finish like King Solomon that built the
house and then served other gods; or like King Hezekiah,
that God selected for death after a race of honor, and
when he got an extension with life through healing –
turned away from God and finished in rebellion. We must
proceed to the high calling of God, the more excellent
way – the finishing line. It is how we finish that
counts. We must finish as fathers, we must finish as
mothers, we must finish as the Moses that brings the
people to the top of the mountain – to be reconciled –
spirit, soul, and then at the culmination – THE BODY.
There are so many more details with these scriptures that
build on the glory of God’s plan. God has so many ways,
so many pictures to show us these simple truths. It is
never a new revelation but a revelation seen in the Old
Testament, but with a clearer vision until that time of
the great Marriage Supper Feast of the Lamb – the
Gathering Together of God’s people unto Himself. God’s
love story starts in Genesis 1:1 and ends in Revelation
22:21. This is the day that we receive glorified bodies
that are flesh of His flesh and bone of His bone. And
forevermore, we shall be with the Lord and we shall be
known by His Name. We shall be married to our Lord. We
are the City of God, we are the dwelling place of God –
His temple, we are His bride and wife, and we are His
people Whom He takes pleasure in. Come Lord Jesus, we
receive Your free gift, drinking from Your spring. Come
Lord Jesus, we have made ourselves ready for You. Come
Lord Jesus, we have become Your habitation, a temple not
made with the hands of man, but a temple made solely by
the hands of Your Spirit; for God’s temple is not made by
might (human), nor by power (man’s) , but by My Spirit
saith the Lord. Amen.
Rev 21:2-17 – I saw the holy City (God’s people), the new
Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared
as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband. And I
heard a loud voice from the throne saying, “Now the
dwelling of God is with men, and he will live with them.
THEY WILL BE HIS PEOPLE, AND GOD HIMSELF WILL BE WITH
THEM AND BE THEIR GOD. He will wipe every tear from
their eyes. There will be no more death or mourning or
crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed
away.” He who was seated on the throne said, “I am making
everything new!” He said to me: “It is done. I am the
Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End. To him
who is thirsty I will give to drink without cost from the
spring of the water of life. He who overcomes will
inherit all this, and I will be his God and he will be my
son. “I, Jesus, have sent my angel to give you this
testimony for the churches. I am the Root and the
Offspring of David, and the bright Morning Star.” The
Spirit and the bride say, “Come!”And let him who hears
say, “Come!” Whoever is thirsty, let him come; and
whoever wishes, let him take the free gift of the water
of life. (NIV)
3 John 13-14 – I have so much to tell you, but I do not
want to do it with pen and ink. I hope to see you soon,
and then we will talk personally. TEV
John Robert Lucas
Excerpt from Temple Builders: Final Push to the Summit
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