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Prophecy and Revelation
“The Four Quarters, Four Winds,
Four Spirits (Part 3)
(November 27, 2012; Published February 20, 2013)
Before reading the following Vision, you
probably want to read: “Christ
Slices The Heavenlies Into Quarters (Part 2).
Below, is a Recap from the November
16, 2012 Vision, “Christ Slices The Heavenlies Into
Quarters (Part 2)”, Jesus shared many important
things with us, but I only want to remind you of four
right now.
(1) He said that what He is showing
us, are “more than visions. They are happening
in My Spiritual realm.”
(2a) While
dressed in a white robe of brilliant white Light, He
appeared to be slicing the heavenlies into four
quarters: North, East, South and West. In this manner,
He showed us the “Circle of Light and Convergence” in a
new way and gave it new meaning. During this Vision, He
also made sure that I saw clearly that the right sleeve
of His brilliant white light robe flowed toward earth as
if it was water and bright white light together.
(2b) In the Vision later that afternoon, Christ
appeared as an earthly man in the Spiritual realm. It
was as if Jesus Christ was a physical man placed into
the Spiritual realm. I have never seen Him, or anyone
else, that way before. He wore metal mesh armor, in this
November 16 Vision, but the mesh in this vision was
becoming silver, rather than amber as it had been in the
May 1, 2012 Vision.
(3) Jesus asked if “the sword
was drawn, but still close to His thigh?” It was. He
then asked me to look up scriptures showing “Sword” and
“Thigh” together. I found two that pertained to this
Vision:
Ps 45:1-4 My heart overflows with a good
theme; I address my verses to the King {Christ};
my tongue is the pen of a ready writer. You
{Jesus} are fairer than the sons of men; Grace is poured
upon Your lips; therefore God has blessed You forever.
Gird Your sword ON
YOUR THIGH, O Mighty One, in Your splendor and Your
majesty! And in Your majesty ride on victoriously, for
the cause of Truth and Meekness and Righteousness; let
Your RIGHT hand teach You awesome things.
NASU
Song 3:6-11 (*)Who is this coming
out of the wilderness {Christ’s Wife has} like
pillars of smoke, perfumed with myrrh and frankincense,
with all the merchant's fragrant powders? Behold, it is
Solomon's {also Christ’s} couch {marriage couch}, with
sixty valiant men around it, of the valiant of Israel.
They all hold swords,
being expert in war. Every man has his sword ON HIS
THIGH because of fear in the night. Of
the wood of Lebanon Solomon the King {symbolizing
Christ} made himself a palanquin: He made its
pillars of silver, its support of gold,
its seat of purple, ITS INTERIOR PAVED WITH LOVE
by the daughters of Jerusalem {also new, heavenly
Jerusalem}. Go forth, O daughters of Zion {also new
Jerusalem}, and see King Solomon with the crown with
which his mother
crowned Him on the day of His Wedding, the day of the
Gladness of His heart. NKJV
(*)
“Who is this coming out of the wilderness”: MUST READ:
“Christ’s Wife and Revelation 12"
November 21, 2012; “The Four Quarters, Four Winds, Four
Spirits (Part 3)”
As I awoke this morning,
Jesus reminded me of the following verse, below:
[Zech 5:5 thru 6:8] Then the angel who talked with me
came out and said to me, "Lift your eyes now, and see
what this is that goes forth." So I asked, "What is it?"
And he said, "It is a basket that is going forth."
He also said, "This is their resemblance throughout the
earth: Here is a lead disc lifted up, and this is a
woman sitting inside the basket"; then he said,
"This is Wickedness!" And he thrust her down
into the basket, and threw the lead cover over its
mouth. Then I raised my eyes and looked, and
there were two women, coming with the wind in their
wings; for they had wings like the wings of a stork, and
they lifted up the basket
between earth and heaven. So I said to
the angel who talked with me, "Where are they carrying
the basket?" And he said to me, "To build a house for it
in the land of (*)Shinar; when it is ready, the basket
will be set there on its base." Then I turned and raised
my eyes and looked, and behold, four chariots
were coming from between two mountains, and the
mountains were mountains of bronze. With the
first chariot were red horses, with the second chariot
black horses, with the third chariot white horses, and
with the fourth chariot dappled horses — strong steeds.
Then I answered and said to the angel who talked with
me, "What are these, my lord?" And the angel answered
and said to me,
"THESE ARE FOUR SPIRITS OF HEAVEN, WHO GO OUT FROM THEIR
STATION BEFORE THE LORD OF ALL THE EARTH.
The one with the black horses is going to the north
country, the white are going after them, and the dappled
are going toward the south country." Then the strong
steeds went out, eager to go, that they might walk to
and fro throughout the earth. And He said, "Go, walk to
and fro throughout the earth." So they walked to and fro
throughout the earth. And He called to me, and spoke to
me, saying, "See, those who go toward the north country
have given rest to My Spirit in the north country."
NKJV
(*) “Shinar”: “ ... the
land of southern
Mesopotamia, later known as
Babylonia or Chaldea, through
which the Tigris and Euphrates Rivers flow (Gen
10:10; 11:2)... Nimrod's kingdom in
Shinar consisted of
the cities of Babel (Babylon), Erech (Uruk),
Accad (Akkad or Agade), and Calneh (Gen 10:10).
It was here that the Tower of
Babel was situated (Gen 11:2). In the
days of Abraham, Amraphel, a king of Shinar, was
involved in the attack and defeat of five kings of
Canaan, including the kings of Sodom and Gomorrah (Gen
14:1,9). In about 606 B.C. Nebuchadnezzar, king of
Babylon, took the Temple vessels from Jerusalem to
Shinar (Dan 1:2), from where Isaiah had
predicted God's people would return to Israel
(Isa 11:11). After the return from the
Captivity, the prophet Zechariah saw a vision of the
removal of a woman from Israel to
Shinar (Zech
5:11). Some scholars associate this woman with the great
harlot, "Babylon the great" (Rev 17:5)... (from Nelson's
Illustrated Bible Dictionary...)
“The
Land of Shinar
was a general geographic term
for what is today
Iraq, known in ancient times as
Mesopotamia...” (Copied from www.keyway.ca/htm2005/20051125.htm)
“The Assyrian, Babylonian and Persian
Empires, although all were in a similar area,
included many countries, and some are significant in the
Bible. The Empires included what is now
Iraq, Iran, Turkey,
Southern Europe, Asia, India, Ethiopia, Syria, Lebanon,
the ancient land of Mesopotamia, Macedonia and other
places mentioned in the scriptures, known by
their ancient names. In the Bible, the first mention of
these countries by their ancient names are Assyria
(Syria) (Genesis 2:14), the
Land of Shinar (Iraq) (Genesis
10:10), Canaan (Israel) (Genesis 10:18), Egypt (Genesis
12:10), Mesopotamia
(Iraq and Iran) (Genesis 24:10), Lebanon
(Deuteronomy 1:7), Babylon (Iraq) (Joshua 7:21), Medes
(Iran) (2 Kings 17:6), Ethiopia (the land of Cush) (2
Kings 19:9), Persia (Iran) (2 Chronicles 36:20), India
(Esther 1:1), Tubal (Turkey) (Isaiah 66:19), Macedonia
(Greece) (Acts 16:9) and almost all of these settlements
were named after the descendants of Noah. We read about
many significant Biblical events that happened in that
huge area.”(Copied from www.bibleabookoftruth.com/iraqturkeyandiranareimportantregio nsin...)
NOTE: This vision, November 21, 2012, is a
continuation of the Vision written on November 16, 2012,
“Christ
Slices The Heavenlies Into Quarters.” In
today’s Vision, Jesus again showed Himself, my
resurrected sister, and me in formal dress and armor
combined (High Priest {Jesus only}, Priests, Warrior,
and King(s)). My resurrected sister represented Heavenly
Beings, while I represented those on earth who walk and
worship within the Spirit <Gal 5:25; Jn 4:24>. Christ
brought and brings both together, and has been doing so
for several years.]
God’s Children are to become,
and are becoming, God’s Priests and Kings. In 2010 we
were told we would leave the wilderness as Priests and
Kings. We are now entering the promised land, God’s land
of promises. Some have already entered, but we will soon
enter as ONE Body, Christ’s One Body. Notice, God says
in Revelation 1:5-6, “To Him {Jesus Christ} who loved us
and washed us from our sins in His own blood, and
has made {past tense}
us kings and priests to His God and Father,
to Him be glory and dominion forever and ever. Amen.
NKJV
If you have not read “Christ
Slices The Heavenlies Into Quarters” (Part 2)
please do so.
In today’s Vision, Jesus again
raised His sword to the North then the East, South and
West. In the previous Vision, Jesus had raised His sword
and appeared to be slicing the heavenlies into four
pieces. Today, He
told me why. He said, “I cut/marked the (1)“Circle of
Light and Convergence” on earth and into the Heavenlies.
Except in a very few verses, the only Hebrew word
that is translated as “spirit” within the Old Testament
is also the only word translated as “wind.” Therefore,
it is safe to say that the translator decided how to
translate this word at the time he translated the verse;
and this Hebrew word can be translated as either. Please
see below:
OT:7307
ruwach; from OT:7306;
wind;
by resemblance breath, i.e. a sensible
(or even violent) exhalation; ... life,
anger, ... a region of the sky;
by
resemblance spirit, but only of a rational being
(including its expression and functions): KJV -
air, anger, blast, breath, cool, courage, mind,
quarter,
side, spirit
([-ual]), tempest, vain, ([whirl-])
wind
(-y). (Strong's Concordance) |
This is the same Hebrew word, ruwach, that
is translated as “Spirit” in the Holy Spirit.
With the above teaching in mind, Zechariah 6:5-8, above,
could be read as follows: “And the angel answered and
said to me, "These are
four SPIRITS/WINDS of heaven,
who go out from their station before the Lord of all the
earth. The one with the black horses is going to the
north country, the white are going after them, and the
dappled are going toward the south country."
Then the strong steeds went out, eager to go, that they
might walk to and fro
throughout the earth. And He said, "Go,
walk to and fro throughout the earth." So they
walked to and fro throughout
the earth. And He called to me, and
spoke to me, saying, "See, those who go toward
the north country have given Rest to My Spirit in the
north country." NKJV
Please read
the following verse also: [Jer 49:36] Against
Elam I will bring the
four winds / SPIRITS from the four quarters of
heaven, and scatter them toward all
those winds / SPIRITS;
there shall be no nations where the outcasts of (2)Elam
will not go. NKJV
(2)
“Elam”: Because
of the world situation today, I have added the following
information on Elam {from above verse}. I found it
interesting! “Elam ... Persian???????) Was
an ancient civilization centered in the far west and
sowthwest of modern-day
Iran, stretching from the lowlands of what
is now Khuzestan (Persian ?????) And Ilam
Province (Persian ?????), as well as
a small part of
southern
Iraq... Elamite states were among the
leading political forces of other ancient near east..."
(copied from “http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elam) Please do not understand, this is not a statement about Iran or Iraq, or any other country.
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Below, please notice that both “wind” and “breath” are
the same Hebrew word ruwach as “spirit, thus
both “wind” and “breath” can be translated as “spirit”
also.
[Ezekiel 37:9-14] Also He said to me,
"Prophesy to the breath {SPIRIT(S)},
prophesy, son of man, and say to the breath
{SPIRIT(S)}, 'Thus says the Lord God: "Come
from the four winds {SPIRIT(S)}, O
breath {SPIRIT(S)}, and breathe on
these slain, that they may live."'" So I prophesied as
He commanded me, and breath {SPIRIT(S)}
came into them, and they lived, and stood upon their
feet, an exceedingly great army. Then He said to me,
"Son of man, (3)these
bones are the whole house of Israel.
They indeed say, 'Our bones are dry, our hope is
lost, and we ourselves are cut off!' Therefore
prophesy and say to them, 'Thus says the Lord God: (3)"Behold,
O My people, I will open your graves and
cause you to come up from your graves, and bring you
into the land of Israel. (3)Then
you shall know that I am the Lord, when I have opened
your graves, O My people, and brought you up from your
graves. I will put My Spirit {Holy} in you, and you
shall live, and I will place you in your
own land. Then you shall know that I, the Lord, have
spoken it and performed it," says the Lord.'" NKJV
[Most, including myself, believe that the
following scriptures are extremely important in
understanding Biblical Prophecy.]
[Daniel 7:2] Daniel spoke, saying, "I saw in my vision
by night, and behold, the (4)four winds/SPIRITS
of heaven were stirring up the Great Sea. NKJV
[Daniel 8:8] Therefore the male goat grew very
great; but when he became strong, the large horn was
broken, and (4)in place of it four notable ones
came up toward the four winds/SPIRITS of heaven. NKJV
[Daniel 11:4] And (4)when
he has arisen, his kingdom shall be broken up and
divided toward the four winds/SPIRITS of heaven,
but not among his posterity nor according to his
dominion with which he ruled; for his kingdom shall be
uprooted, even for others besides these. NKJV
{Other Examples of “FOUR WINDS/SPIRITS”
Scriptures:} [Zech 2:3-13] And there was the
angel who talked with me, going out; and another angel
was coming out to meet him, who said to him, "Run, speak
to this young man, saying: ' {new as opposed to old
physical} Jerusalem shall be inhabited as towns without
walls, because of the multitude of men and livestock in
it. For I,' says the
Lord, 'will be a wall of fire all around her, and I will
be the Glory in her midst.'" "Up, up! Flee from the land
of the north," says the Lord; "for I have spread you
abroad like the four winds/SPIRITS of heaven,"
says the Lord [also see Gen 28:10-17, below]. "Up,
Zion {also Jerusalem, new Jerusalem}! Escape,
you who dwell with the daughter of Babylon." For thus
says the Lord of hosts: "He sent Me after glory,
to the nations which plunder you; for he who touches you
touches the apple of His eye. For surely I will
shake My hand against them, and they shall become spoil
for their servants. Then you will know that the Lord of
hosts has sent Me. "Sing and rejoice, O daughter
of Zion {also Jerusalem, new Jerusalem}! For behold, I
am coming and I will dwell in your midst," says the
Lord. "Many nations shall be joined to the Lord in that
day, and they shall become My people. And I will dwell
in your midst. Then you will know that the Lord
of hosts has sent Me to you. And the Lord will take
possession of Judah as His inheritance in the Holy Land,
and will again choose Jerusalem {also Zion, new
Jerusalem}. Be silent, all flesh, before the Lord, for
He is aroused from His holy habitation!" NKJV
[Matthew 24:31] And He will send His angels with
a great sound of a trumpet, and they will gather
together His elect {you and me!}from the
four winds {Hebrew “spirits”
also}, from one end of heaven to the other.
NKJV (also Mk 13:27)
[Revelation 7:1-4] After
these things I saw four angels {messengers}
standing at the four corners of the earth, holding the
four winds/{Hebrew “SPIRITS” also} of the earth, that
the wind {Hebrew “SPIRIT(S) also} should not blow on the
earth, on the sea, or on any tree. Then I saw
another angel ascending {not descending} from the east,
having the seal of the living God. And
he cried with a loud voice to the four angels to whom it
was granted to harm the earth and the sea, saying, "Do
not harm the earth, the sea, or the trees till
we have sealed the servants of our God on their
foreheads." NKJV
Jesus then said
that as He sliced the heavenlies into four quarters He
put all His Beloved Children, from within the four
quarters, into the Circle Of Light And Convergence:
which is now divided into the four quarters. This means
that this circle of Light,
within the Spiritual realm, must
be all inclusive – all of heaven and earth.
He then reminded me of the 1997
Vision, “Egypt/China
Pushes The World Into The Deep” in which the
Holy Spirit, or dove, rises on the power of shooting water
and then begins to descend as a mist to earth. I also
believe that He may have mentioned this Vision because in it
He said through me, and showed us, the Tigris/Euphrates
River.
I am not sure why He reminded me of
this, but I will leave it here incase He wants to refer to
it at a later date.
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Jesus then said that He, as our Commander, is
moving and directing the spirits/wind/breath down to
earth from the heavenlies, and also into the Circle Of
Light And Convergence.” On February 17, 2013,
Jesus again said that He was moving all His
Children into the “Circle
Of Light and Convergence” If you have
read the various teachings, prophecies, and visions on
this “circle” you know that this Spiritual circle is all
Light and that it extends from the heavens into the
surface of the earth; and it remains continually. Spirit
filled humans and Spiritual beings from heaven are
present there - within the Light of God:
[James 1:16-18]
Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and
comes down from the Father of Lights, with whom there is no
variation or shadow of turning. Of His own will He brought
us forth by the word of (5)Truth, that we might be a kind of
firstfruits of His creatures. NKJV
[Colossians 1:12]
giving thanks to the Father who has qualified us to be
partakers of the inheritance of the Saints in the Light.
NKJV
Christ reminded me that at this time the Seven
Spirits have been sent to earth <Rev 5:6>. He also said that
if I was counted, along with my sister and Jesus, and the
four spirits/winds etc there would be Seven. He was using us
an example to teach Spiritual life. The seven spirits before
the throne of God are Holy Spirit filled beings and thus
seven spirits. He wants us to know that we are all spirits
and that the seven spirits are just that - seven spirits.
Again, I am not sure why He reminded me of this, but I will
leave this incase He wants to refer to it at a later date.
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With regards to the Circle of Light and Convergence
Jesus reminded me of the following scripture recently.
Though this is not a “circle” He said to put this here
because it shows that angels {God’s messengers} have
been coming to earth forever and it is shown over and
over again in the Bible. In my opinion, and according to
the one prophecy (see #1 below) and the one Vision (see
#1 below), this “Circle” is, and will continue to
become, much more important in God’s plans and history
than the ladder from earth to Heaven discussed in the
Genesis scripture directly below.
Now Jacob went out from Beersheba and went toward
Haran. So he came to a certain place and stayed there
all night, because the sun had set. And he took one of
the stones of that place and put it at his head, and he
lay down in that place to sleep. Then he dreamed, and
behold, a ladder was
set up on the earth, and its top reached to heaven; and
there the angels of God were ascending and descending on
it.
And behold, the Lord
stood above it and said: "I am the Lord God of
Abraham your father and the God of Isaac; the land on
which you lie I will give to you and your descendants.
Also your descendants shall be as the dust of the earth;
you shall spread
abroad to the west and the east, to the north and the
south; and in you and in your seed all the families of
the earth shall be blessed {also see
Zech 2:3-13}. Behold, I am with you and will
keep you wherever you go {I will not leave you or
forsake you}, and will bring you back to this land; for
I will not leave you until I have done what I have
spoken to you."
Then Jacob awoke from
his sleep and said,
"Surely the Lord is in this place, and I did not know
it." And he was afraid and said,
"How awesome is this
place! This is none other than the house of God, and
this is the GATE OF HEAVEN!" [Gen
28:10-17; NKJV]
The “Circle Of Light and Convergence” is definitely a
SPIRITUAL PLACE and most likely not a location on earth,
as the ladder in Genesis above is/was. It is created and
enlarged as God’s Children are brought into it.
There is no question in my mind that God is, and
has been, moving His Children into the “Circle of Light
and Convergence”, His Land Of
Promise, His SPIRITUAL Promised Land! I
know of two other people that have seen this “circle” in
various stages of development.
What about the
world? Parts 4-6 help us to further see what Christ is
doing in both the world and for His Children. {On
approximately February 16, 2013, as I re-read parts 4-6
of this teaching, Jesus showed me that He is the
fullness of the “Circle of Light and Convergence” and
therefore this circle is ever growing bigger as He is
adding beings to Himself. This includes both heavenly
and earthly beings; and this circle extends from earth
to heaven {or heaven to earth?}.
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(1) “Circle Of Light And Convergence”: Must
Read:
“May 28, 2007, (The Circle OF Light And
Convergence - 1); The POWER In Christ’s Body Is The
Cross" and
“March 1999, (The Circle Of Light And
Convergence - 2); "The POWER In The MAGNITUDE Of God"
(2) is above, under “Elam” on page 4.
(3)
“these bones are the WHOLE house of Israel”
(+) "Behold, O My people, I will open your
graves and cause you to come up from your graves”
(+) “Then you shall know that I am the Lord,
when I have opened your graves, O My people, and brought
you up from your graves. I will put My Spirit in you,
and you shall live”:
[Matt 27:50-53]
And Jesus cried out again with a loud voice, and
yielded up His spirit. Then, behold, the veil
of the temple was torn in two from top to bottom; and
the earth quaked, and the rocks were split, and
the graves were
opened; and many bodies of the saints who had fallen
asleep were raised; and coming out of the graves after
His resurrection, they went into the holy city
{Jerusalem} and appeared to many. NKJV
[John 5:28-30] Do not marvel at this; for
the hour is coming in
which all who are in the graves will hear His voice and
come forth — those who have done good,
to the resurrection of life, and those who have done
evil, to the resurrection of condemnation. I can of
Myself do nothing. As I hear, I judge; and My judgment
is righteous, because I do not seek My own will but the
will of the Father who sent Me. NKJV
SUGGESTED READING:
February 6, 2011 "Jesus Raises The Dead At The
Golden Gate In Jerusalem, Israel"
(4) “Daniel 7:2; Daniel 8:8; Daniel 11:4":
For a much better understanding of end time Bible
Prophecy and “Spirits”, as used in this teaching and in
the Bible, please read,
“My Final Seven Years: My Righteous Trees (God's
Offspring/Remnant) and SATAN'S TWO TREES/HORNS"
You will read about SPIRITUAL Princes {spirits} over
specific countries and realms, and physical Kings over
the same region. The book of Daniel makes this clear. In
fact, we read God’s prophetic word which later
physically manifested in history (we provide Bible notes
within “My Final Seven Years: My Righteous Trees (God's
Offspring/Remnant) and Satan's Two Trees/Horns").
In other words, the spiritual forces were battling
for power before mankind saw it manifest in the
physical. This brings to mind the scripture:
[Ephesians 6:10-20] “Finally, my brethren, be strong in
the Lord and in the power of His might. Put on the whole
armor
of God, that you may be able to stand against the wiles
of the devil. For WE
DO NOT WRESTLE AGAINST FLESH AND BLOOD, BUT AGAINST
PRINCIPALITIES, AGAINST POWERS, AGAINST THE RULERS OF
THE DARKNESS OF THIS AGE, AGAINST SPIRITUAL HOSTS OF
WICKEDNESS IN THE HEAVENLY PLACES. Therefore take
up the whole armor of
God, that you may be able to withstand in the evil day,
and having done all, TO STAND. Stand therefore,
having girded your waist with (5)Truth, having put on
the breastplate of Righteousness, and having shod your
feet with the preparation of the Gospel of Peace; above
all, taking the Shield of Faith with
which you will be able to quench all the fiery
darts of the wicked one. And take the Helmet of
Salvation, and the
SWORD OF THE SPIRIT, WHICH IS THE WORD OF GOD;
praying always with all prayer and supplication
in the Spirit,
being watchful to this end with all perseverance and
supplication for all the Saints — and
for me, that utterance may be given to me, that I may
open my mouth boldly to make known the mystery of the
gospel, for which I am an ambassador in chains; that in
it I may speak boldly, as I ought to speak. NKJV
(5) “Truth”: MUST READ:
January
24, 2013; God's Promised Land; His Land Of Truth"
Remember that Jesus has drawn our attention to the
fact that Israel had to go into battle in order to enter
Her physical Promised Land. Jesus has shown Beings,
including Himself, from heaven and earth dressed in
battle (kings’ and priests’) armor. He used His
finger/arm, and or a sword as a battle weapon, to move
the heavenly spirits: I am sure, because Christ said so,
that God is, and has, moved His into the “Circle Of
Light and Convergence”; I believe He has also moved
satans, but am not sure.
This particular
vision/prophecy is equal in detail and difficult
interpretation for me, to
“Egypt/China Pushes The World Into The Deep”,
especially with regards to Iraq and Iran and Tigris and/or Euphrates River(s) – which was
totally unexpected. At this time I don’t know anymore
than what God has taught in these 6 Parts. If you
receive a Vision, Word or Scripture references please
let me know. I would love to read them.
God bless
us all with the fullness of Yourself, Chris Williams
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Edited by Chris Williams on 02/20/2013 at 5:27pm
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Hi Janine, I'm not sure why you are bringing up "God's Final Seven Years" here? All are in Jesus' heart and just as importantly all are within Christ's heart - I agree with you - better yet I agree with the Bible and God - we both do :-)
Eph 1:22-23 22 And He put all things under His feet, and gave Him to be head over all things to the church, 23 which is His body, the fullness of Him who fills all in all. NKJV
1 Cor 15:28 Now when all things are made subject to Him, then the Son Himself will also be subject to Him who put all things under Him, that God may be all in all. NKJV
Again, I am not quite sure where you are getting this info, so I will try to answer with what you have written here.
{Janine says} "In this you {Chris} write that Jesus shares there are those that are"not in His heart" while at the same time declaring there are those that keep "His creation" from Him..seems to give this "us against them" mentality and fighting ego with ego."
I'm sorry but I do not read God's words through me in this manner. If one compares what is written in Revelation (the book of) I believe both are talking about the near future in which God will bring all mankind to their knees if not saved - in order to save them. A good parent, God, will only allow theirs to run wild in the streets so long before taking action to help them.
{you said} The truth is that men try to push Christ out of their hearts, but all men are in Christ's heart.
{Chris} I agree, but more importantly so does God - this is His view throughout the Bible.
{ypu said} Satan really does not have that much power or victory. It is not God's
will that any should perish. Maybe I have misunderstood what you shared?
{Chris} The book of Revelation shows that satan has WHAT APPEARS TO BE VICTORY" for a short time. I believe that Christ - who is the one speaking in God's Final Years (actually if I remember correctly) both God and Christ are speaking (again all in all) - is that God will not tolerate the lack of respect toward His son forever. Christ came to save - and He baptized and gives God's new birth through the Holy Spirit. Through Christ we can stand back in our Father's face from which all mankind fell.
{you said} But God's rain (reign) falls on the just and unjust. If we are eating
from the tree of Life (Christ) we see God and others clearly, if the
other tree (knowledge of good and evil, we see God and others through
satan..flesh, ego, pride arrogance). Our job is to make men aware of who
they are in Christ.
{Chris} I agree with you - but I would say that only God can change others. If we could save each other Christ would not have had to come. It is our job to do what we can to help others into salvation. However, God is the only one who can give it. God will ultimately make all judgements toward the salvation of all - are we walking within Christ's heart or not? God gave a warning to all with regards to this in God's Final Seven Years. He is basically saying that we need to ask ourselves who the whore in Babylon is. Christ says, not me, at the end of this prophecy that He will not marry the whore. In fact,t here is a scripture in which we are told that there is a possibility that some will not go to the marriage:
Matt 22:1-14 22 And Jesus answered and spoke to them again by parables and said: 2 "The kingdom of heaven is like a certain king who arranged a marriage for his son, 3 and sent out his servants to call those who were invited to the wedding; and they were not willing to come. 4 Again, he sent out other servants, saying, 'Tell those who are invited, "See, I have prepared my dinner; my oxen and fatted cattle are killed, and all things are ready. Come to the wedding."' 5 But they made light of it and went their ways, one to his own farm, another to his business. 6 And the rest seized his servants, treated them spitefully, and killed them. 7 But when the king heard about it, he was furious. And he sent out his armies, destroyed those murderers, and burned up their city. 8 Then he said to his servants, 'The wedding is ready, but those who were invited were not worthy. 9 Therefore go into the highways, and as many as you find, invite to the wedding.' 10 So those servants went out into the highways and gathered together all whom they found, both bad and good. And the wedding hall was filled with guests.
11 "But when the king came in to see the guests, he saw a man there who did not have on a wedding garment. 12 So he said to him, 'Friend, how did you come in here without a wedding garment?' And he was speechless. 13 Then the king said to the servants, 'Bind him hand and foot, take him away, and cast him into outer darkness; there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.' 14 "For many are called, but few are chosen." NKJV
{you say} Do we in the Body of Christ have any idea what it does to one's mental
health to perpetuate this children of the devil mentality? When Jesus
told the pharisees they were of their father the devil what was He
really trying to do? Do you think He desired condemnation and death? I
do not think so. He was waking them up to their condition. Faith, hope,
and love these three never fail or end.
{Chris} I know that satan exists and that he is a danger to God's people. God calls him His enemy throughout the Bible. I'm sorry - are you saying that satan is not real?
Romans 8:38 38 For I am persuaded that neither death nor life, nor angels nor principalities nor powers, nor things present nor things to come, NKJV Ephesians 3:10 10 to the intent that now the manifold wisdom of God might be made known by the church to the principalities and powers in the heavenly places, NKJV Ephesians 6:12 For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places. NKJV Colossians 1:16 16 For by Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. All things were created through Him and for Him.
God was, and thus I was, teaching the book of Revelations, Daniel etc immediately after writing and teaching about God's Wife. In Rev 12 (see below) we are told that the Wife comes from the wilderness with God's offspring/remnant and satan follows her to persecute her. I believe in "God's Final Seven Years" God was protecting His people -making an attempt if you will, to remove them from the Lukewarm church - which Jesus vomits from His mouth. I know He was teaching the Truth - as it appears in the Bible: Rev 12:7-17
7 And war broke out in heaven: Michael and his angels fought with the dragon; and the dragon and his angels fought, 8 but they did not prevail, nor was a place found for them in heaven any longer. 9 So the great dragon was cast out, that serpent of old, called the Devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was cast to the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
10 Then I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, "Now salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of His Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren, who accused them before our God day and night, has been cast down. 11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony, and they did not love their lives to the death. 12 Therefore rejoice, O heavens, and you who dwell in them! Woe to the inhabitants of the earth and the sea! For the devil has come down to you, having great wrath, because he knows that he has a short time."
13 Now when the dragon saw that he had been cast to the earth, he persecuted the woman who gave birth to the male Child. 14 But the woman was given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness to her place, where she is nourished for a time and times and half a time, from the presence of the serpent. 15 So the serpent spewed water out of his mouth like a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away by the flood. 16 But the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened its mouth and swallowed up the flood which the dragon had spewed out of his mouth. 17 And the dragon was enraged with the woman, and he went to make war with the rest of her offspring, who keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus Christ. NKJV
I'm not sure what you mean by the "devil mentality" I went back to our online website and a copy of "God's Seven Years" and ran the word "devil" using "FIND" through this prophecy and it only appeared in verses - it wasn't used by God (or by me in my explanation) at all within the piece.
There are numerous references to "satan". Can you give me a couple of statments you objct to? I should have asked that at the beginning. At this point I am kinda guessing what that is. It would help me a great deal.
"God will not be the force, power, authority that sustains the two larger trees, or two horns, false religion/false prophet during God’s final seven years. Satan will sustain the "two larger trees"/two horns", the false religion and false prophet {beasts from the earth and sea} during God’s final seven years.
Both the bold and underlined parts refer to the same interpretation found in the Book of Rev. where the false prophet, and 2 beasts are spoken of by John/God.
This was written by God in 2010 and I haven't read it in a long time. I think this is the piece you are referring to. Perhaps I have already answered you comment/question? I'm not sure exactly what you object to. Thank you for your comments. In Christ's Love For all, Chris
Janine - I just went back and looked at God's Seven Years again. It says, "Who will hold My physical Church, My Creation, My Beings, separate and strong as My own enemy, satan, comes against them? The two large nations/trees? They are already dead and live where satan desires. (12)"The Final Harvest... As You Know It", "Harvest Time", has yielded the dead <Rev 14:14-20>. The dead have risen to the top on the crust of the earth/dust/that from which I, and I alone, made them, saith the LORD God Almighty."
Is this what you are referring to? " God asks, "Who
will hold My physical Church, My Creation, My Beings, separate and
strong as My own enemy, satan, comes against them? The two large
nations/trees?" God is saying that the two trees/horns/nations will not hold God's physical church, His creation, His Beings, separate and strong as satan comes against them." God is saying don't depend on them - DEPEND ON ME.
God bless you - we all need to keep thinking and asking. Love you, Chris
Edited by Chris Williams on 02/21/2013 at 8:09pm
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