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Posted: 10/23/2014 at 2:39pm | IP Logged Quote Steven Bliss

I had a short strange dream Tuesday morning just before awaking.
I was watching a small group of people who were standing around a stove.
There was an oval old-fashioned cast-iron cooker. Within it they were
“cooking” pork, but it was a small piglet lying there. It was not “fixed”
or prepared; but looked whole. I wonder about that, thinking it seemed alive,
(though it lay perfectly still and looked comfortable). When I asked
if it were alive they would not answer, it was as if they could not see me,
but they stood there watching.

I awoke very disturbed by what was seeming to happen.
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Posted: 10/23/2014 at 10:43pm | IP Logged Quote Kimberly Fowler

Did you get any interpretation of what this symbolized? I usually get understanding of my own dreams but very rarely will God give me interpretation of others' dreams, yet I know He shares secrets and reveals things through dreams, so if you do have an interpretation and feel free to share it, I would like to know what it meant. I know some people prefer to leave the dreams as they are for others to interpret, so I won't invade your privacy if that is the case. But I like to think of dreams like "tongues"...it benefits others if we have an interpreter. If you did even get partial interpretation, I would be interested, if you feel free to share.
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Posted: 10/24/2014 at 5:27am | IP Logged Quote Steven Bliss

I'm lead to believe we can see things with new eyes.
We'll see a scenario and watch others around it doing nothing. It is because it seems to strange/wrong to our inner self that we can have an influence.

We can speak the truth, despite what others say. We can take action.

In this case others were watching this animal being cooked alive. They were deluded in thinking this was ok.

I suspect there is more: but likely for areas of my walk and growth.
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Posted: 10/24/2014 at 12:10pm | IP Logged Quote TITUS YODER

Last evening after reading your dream I asked the Lord to
help us to know the meaning. Felt it was significant and
the timing was right. This morning upon awakening felt I
was shown some things. Those gathered were those who are
hungry and were observant during the feast(tabernacles).
Many of us thought we would see a quick work and are
feeling a little let down. The baby(piglet) was born, is
alive and the fire is lit. It takes about one year or so
for a pig to mature and become pork. Those waiters who
believe that God can and will do what he says can not hear
or be distracted by those who still walk in unbelief,
judgement or natural affinities.
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Posted: 10/24/2014 at 12:37pm | IP Logged Quote Steven Bliss

Titus, what you write is untrue, but does not fit how I "felt" in this dream.
I was bothered that folks were watching this animal was being cooked alive.
Either they lacked discernment or were spiritually dead:
Whether they were deluded or had no revelation as what was happening.

Edited by Steven Bliss on 10/24/2014 at 12:39pm
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Posted: 10/24/2014 at 12:45pm | IP Logged Quote Kimberly Fowler

Titus, I would think that Steven's emotional view in the dream carries weight, so I think the dream for him is how he saw it, however when others get a different view, it could be that God is saying something to them in that regard. But I do have a question, Titus. If it was in regard to Jewish festivals, why would it be pork when that was considered a very unclean animal? I know in the NT God says to call nothing unclean and we can now eat pork if our conscience is clear on it. But my thought is that if it regarded the Jewish festivals, that lamb or goat would be the creature. As to what you stated about people waiting on God and not being distracted is a very good word in itself, but I still question the fact that God would use pork to depict a holy sacrifice. (Just an observation, not an argument.)
PS Titus, if God spoke to you about not letting people influence you when you are waiting on God, it could be that He was giving you personal encouragement in your own life that His promises are sure and that you are right in waiting for them in spite of any other distractions or things contrary to that!

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Posted: 10/24/2014 at 1:01pm | IP Logged Quote TITUS YODER

The days of living in a world of good and evil are over.
This move that is apon us will shake all our preconceived
ideas and religious thoughts. The fact that the food does
not fit into our neatly packaged thinking is only evidence
that the Spirt is trying to grow us up. Jesus totally blew
the Jews hair back when he told them"unless you eat of my
flesh and drink my blood ypu have no part in me". They
would be in their minds unclean because they would have
tpuched a dead body. They did not understand that only his
sacrifice could make them whole. As far as the dreams
interpretation "let he who has ears to hear, let him hear".
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Posted: 10/24/2014 at 6:03pm | IP Logged Quote Steven Bliss

Titus,
I'm sorry, but you seem a bit uppity in your answer.
I feel your answer totally unacceptable in attitude, as if you alone hold the answer to the interpretation of this dream.
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Posted: 10/24/2014 at 6:46pm | IP Logged Quote TITUS YODER

Was someone else given an interpretation?
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Posted: 10/24/2014 at 7:48pm | IP Logged Quote KellyCarrier

wondering if it has something to do with the church being asleep. the pig
was comfortable but was going to be cooked, but was unaware. maybe
implying the church is happy with the status quo and a warning if it does not
wake up?
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Posted: 10/24/2014 at 8:02pm | IP Logged Quote Dorris Coulson

Agree with you Kelly. Some are very busy trying to fix the church, with good works, and haven't received revelations from him on what he wants, his vision for them. He says it is futile he is building new.
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Posted: 10/25/2014 at 11:36am | IP Logged Quote Steven Bliss

Titus, You asked: Was someone else given an interpretation?

Short answer: Yes.

I'm not demeaning what you have said, just it's import towards the dream for me.
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Posted: 10/25/2014 at 11:07pm | IP Logged Quote Greg Woolston

Story of the three little pigs comes to mind , I WILL HUFF I WILL PUFF I WILL BLOW YOUR HOUSE DOWN.

A STORM IS UPON US IT WILL TEST , TO SEE WHAT YOU HAVE BUILT UPON.

I have in the last three years seen men and womans hearts tested by GOD in a way not witnessed before.
for HE tests the hearts of men that say they love him.

Reminds me of those full of compromise,shallow no cry gathering wood stubble and hay to build their house , gathered around the fire for comfort in a cold indifferent world , we , niether hot nor cold fodder for the devil , or those in his kingdom.

In this third world war in GODS KINGDOM there is no switzerland , the only switzerland is called lukewarm.

We must go through the top soil down into the bedrock of reality which is christ in us the hope of glory , firmly grounded and rooted in christ jesus our lord.

There is a cold and loveless indifference in the world , JUST HAVE FAITH , for we are about to be translated to a higher place in HIM.

He is an all consuming fire , the LAMB , Moses was a friend of god before that flaming shaking mountain , all of israel stood at a distance , they did not want to come close to GOD because HE is a all consumming FIRE.

Those that overcome SING THE SONG OF MOSES worthy is the LAMB , O KING OF THE SAINTS WHO SHALL NOT FEAR YOU.

BEST to be like moses , like JESUS who said i am meek and lowly, I CAN DO NOTHING OF MYSELF.

He also said I AM THE WAY THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE.

JACOB had a mighty revelation as he struggled for the bedrock ( I AM BUT A WORM )

LOOKING UNTO THE MERCY OF GOD KEEP US IN YOUR LOVE DEAREST FATHER , GOD HAVE MERCY ON US WHOM BELIEVE.
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Posted: 10/26/2014 at 9:12am | IP Logged Quote DAVID MACDONALD

Hi Steven. The part that seems to jump out to me is the
part where there is a small group of people standing
round the oval old fashioned cast iron cooker. This
speaks to me of a religous spirit. 'Old fashioned'
representing holding onto the old wine and 'cast iron'
meaning set in their ways. A cooker is a place where
things to eat are made so this could mean teaching
representing food being prepared. Could be that there is
a small group of people who are preparing teaching to
give out which is based in a religous spirit and will
bring defilement into the body of Christ if allowed. The
fact that it was a piglet that seemed alive is that this
teaching will fit in with tradition and seem right, just
as the Pharisees ways of teaching seemed right in the
eyes of the law. Basically I feel this is a dream warning
against false teaching and error and a religous spirit
being prepared to be served to the body of Christ. Jesus
warned us about this in the gospels, particularly in
Matthew 24. Hope this helps.

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Posted: 10/26/2014 at 10:16am | IP Logged Quote Kimberly Fowler

Wow, David, that actually did seem to be really interpreting the dream. Like when you interpret for a foreign speaker, you are not just saying your own words but you are using the very words of the speaker but just translating them for the hearer. I felt you did a very great job of actually translating! Now it is for a hearer to have it resonate with his or her spirit, because we always verify if a dream or revelation is based on the Word, and then if it resonates with our own spirit if it is a word for us or not if we have discerning spirits.
The dream may hold a private interpretation for Steven as it was from God to him, but on a larger scale as to a word to the body, I think you had a very discerning spirit. That answers my own question of why pig specifically or "pork" and that would indicate something unclean when we look at scriptural references to animals, and the other indicators in the dream would follow along with what you stated as well. But it also answers why God gave the dream, because there should come a teaching, a warning, or a lesson from a dream. And we can guard our spirits and ask for discernment against any plans of the enemy so that we won't be defiled from anything impure coming our way. Very good word, David. And again, thank you, Steven, for sharing your dream with us and your interpretation. It sometimes takes boldness to lay out something that God gives us personally, knowing that not everyone will agree, and you can sometimes take a bit of "friendly fire", but we are learning to get past our little differences and try to come together as family and I respect that you are putting forth your words, Steven. Thank you for continuing to do so!
(Just want to add something since tension has been in the air recently on Open Heaven...if some of us agree with one view but not another is simply each person seeing things from their viewpoint, it does not change our status in God, nor should it change our status as family with one another...love should always be preeminent!)
PS Adding one other thing (sorry, Steven, I know this is your post)...if some people think that not everyone IS family, then maybe they can be encouraged to join the family if we keep speaking truth with lots of love.

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Posted: 10/26/2014 at 12:30pm | IP Logged Quote Quo Wright

David what HG was directly in line with what He said to me.  When I first read the dream, the book Pigs in a Parlor and the story of Jesus driving the unclean spirit into the pigs came to mind.  There's something I've been hearing HG say for the last couple of months and that is, "there's alot of talking going on and not enough listening.".  So Steven what also kept standing in the forefront of your mind was the feeling of being disturbed or perplexed upon wakening and that you really want to understand what Dad is saying to you.  So I'll say just what my late Pastor used to say.  He wasn't concerned about people praying for the sheep because if they're weren't right God wouldn't hear them anyway.  What he was most concerned about was what was said to the sheep.  What's fed to His sheep is what harms us.  And now it is very important to try the spirit and see if they be of God.  Pigs represent unclean spirits, religious spirits, legalism, and hypocrisy.  The piglet represents the same thing but as a piglet it would be something that seems harmless in the beginning.  However, no matter what form it takes, if it's not of God, if eaten it still defiles.  Also as I was thinking about what David said in his confirmation, I heard HG say, there is a way that seems right to man but the end of that way is death. 

I'll share a dream my mother had a few years ago.  In the dream she saw a preacher fixing a huge pot of food.  As she got closer she realized he was stirring the food with a mop and not a spoon.  And then the preacher lifted the mop out of the food and lifted it to my mother's nose and my mother said the mop had a bad sour smell and then she woke.  I believe the dream that Steven had is along the same line of my mother's dream.

Be blessed and love you all,

Quo

Watch AND pray that ye enter not into temptation. 

PS  I just heard HG say, "Be careful from what table you eat.  Because you may be thinking you're eating food that brings life when in reality you're eating foods that brings death."

And then I heard this scripture:

"This book of the law shall not depart out of thy mouth; but thou shalt meditate therein day and night, that thou mayest observe to do according to all that is written therein: for then thou shalt make thy way prosperous, and then thou shalt have good success." Joshua 1:8



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Posted: 10/26/2014 at 12:55pm | IP Logged Quote Dorris Coulson

"there's alot of talking going on and not enough listening."  heard that to and a lot of "good works" but they are not of him for the above reason.
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Posted: 10/26/2014 at 1:00pm | IP Logged Quote Karen Samford

yes too much flesh.that's what the pig represents.We all
could use less flesh and more of God.
Put it on the alter make yourself a living sacrifice.


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Posted: 10/26/2014 at 4:38pm | IP Logged Quote TITUS YODER

What has been put on the menu in this feast is not fixed,
or "prepared" in the understanding of most. It would seem
to be unclean and immature to most. How it is being done
will offend and be not kosher to the religious
sensibilities. A small group of very focused people are
watching and observing with faith the feast and its life to
us. In matt.22 Jesus uses the wedding parable to describe
this time. Many who were invited had agendas that would not
allow them to enter in. Now the poor, blind, halt and the
lame will be at wedding supper of the lamb. To God be the
glory great things he has done!
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Posted: 10/26/2014 at 5:19pm | IP Logged Quote Karen Samford

Just heard a few things discussed on here Paul Keith Davis
speaks about.He talks about Cain and Able being in the
church.It confirms and goes with some of the
interpretations here.
http://youtu.be/_Ykv7wJz1QA
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Posted: 10/26/2014 at 8:07pm | IP Logged Quote Danita Arnett

I agree with David that the old cast iron stove represents old wine skins and also felt that the pig represented a defiled & unholy offering. The people standing around were comfortable & did not have ears to hear when Steven tried to speak.
I believe that this is already very prevalent in the church & God is wanting us to intercede for these people that are deceived. I just heard our pastor say tonight that he read on the internet that a church was advertising that they were serving "cold frosty beer" with a night of theological discussion! Can you imagine if that is not an unholy & unacceptable in the house of God.
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David, I sure had a witness to your interpretation of the dream. I believe the Holy Spirit quickened in me as I read it, " a little leaven, leavens the whole lump." There are still things of the 2nd day church system age that are clinging to many entering the reality 3rd day Kingdom of God. You can't put new wine in an old wine skin for sure.

The only thing I may add to this for all your discernment is the cast iron stone may not only mean religious spirits, but the "old way of doing things." If we were to fight the next world war with world war 1 weapons we would be defeated in minutes and hours because what we are used to using does not work in the 3rd day Kingdom age.

There may be some that will try to point back to the past, "this is the way we do it and the way we have always done it." That would leave the piglet intact and not allow us to go forward in the new because our weapons and ideas are for a passing day and not the present day unfolding before us.

Maybe I ate to much pizza tonight so I will allow all of you to discern if this is from the Lord or not. If it is, God will give a witness to it. But I do appreciate everyone trying to listen to the Lord and give insight as God uses iron to sharpen iron.

I have had some "friendly fire" personally, but even if God allows that, it is only to work a deeper, purer, Holy love in us as we overcome evil with good even if it is friendly fire. I am sure learning love covers a multitude of sins and mercy triumphs over judgement.

That doesn't mean we can speak the Truth in love and sometimes like a hammer or fire as the Lord desires from us. Both are from the Holy Spirit when He does it, the rest may come from our unfinished areas and insecurities God is removing from us.

I am blessed by reading the discussion and honesty of trying to hear what God is saying through this dream.

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