Understanding the Role of the Watchman
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Topic: Understanding the Role of the Watchman
Posted By: kelly Tuller
Subject: Understanding the Role of the Watchman
Date Posted: 10/22/2015 at 9:02am
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http://www.charismamag.com/spirit/prayer/17155-
understanding-the-role-of-a-watchman www.kingwatch.co.nz/Prophetic_Ministry/watchmen.htm www.ministryofthewatchman.com/function.html www.jesusplusnothing.com/studies/ (click the link and check the Isaiah 56:10-12} http://www.oldlandmarks.com/proplars.htm https://prepareforthelamb.wordpress.com/2012/05/15/gateke epers-watchmen-you-are-to-speak-out-the-lord-has-called- you-out-to-be-bold-today/ http://www.letusreason.org/Pent48.htm how to have balance and discipline in keeping watch ?? quote from www.kingwatch.co.nz/Prophetic_Ministry/watchmen.htm quote " The place of watchmen is on the wall, looking out into the direction that he is pointing. The can be lonely, discouraging work. Jesus is pleading with his watchmen to stay on the walls, where he needs them to be. Many watchmen are down in the city chatting with friends, because they got lonely. Others are on the conference circuit, where the money is better. Some are busy trolling the internet, but that is not the same as listening to the Lord. Others grew tired and have gone to sleep. Others have given up, because they are weary of their warnings being rejected. The watchman should not be in the city eating and drinking with the town's folk. He should be out on the watchtower looking into the night "quote" From Steve Snow: Sep 20, 1999 I sense in the Lord that the Apostolic reformation is about to burst forth upon the church. There will be 2 streams - the one - will seem prominent with many "big- name" people declaring their apostolic credentials. The other stream will be the "unknowns" those who have been trained and developed over time - those who are "nobodies" in themselves. I also sense a warning - the apostolic stream - the prominent ones by those who are known to many - will be used by the enemy to turn the church leadership into a dictatorship. I see in this stream a return to the same conditions that occurred in the 2nd C AD when local elders - called Bishops became higher ranking regional leaders and eventually - one became the Pope. Beware of that spirit because the new apostolic will take of the shepherding heresy and magnify the wrong spirit - claiming apostolic authority. The Lord though is raising up the apostles - his apostles - those called, those created, molded over time, those who are humble, those who are broken for upon these will the Lord's authority be poured out. These are the ones who understand authority and will give their very lives for the church of God should that be required. The Lord says - resist the apostolic that seems right - the one that seems as if it will succeed - resist the push for power and see His heart. In the true apostles - the Lord's heart will be seen - the cross will be seen and the love, mercy, compassion and determination will be seen. (c)1999 Steve Snow - Was published at one time at Eagle Watchman Prophetic Resources website (no longer in existence now) JANUARY 5, 2015 BY LYDIA THOMAS The Elijah Task: Not (Exactly) A Review https://lydiathomasauthor.wordpress.com/2015/01/05/the- elijah-task-not-exactly-a-review/ ( “To be a watchman or a witness is to see what God is doing. We use the word witness too often only to describe our speaking to others. Rather it means one who watches God in operation among men.” ~John Loren and Paula Sandford, ‘The Elijah Task: A Call to Today’s Prophets and Intercessors‘ Synopsis (from Amazon): It illumines the Bible like a searchlight, pointing out the mysteries of God. There still is much confusion and misuse of the office and the responsibilities of the prophet and the intercessor in the Christian arena. John and Paula Sandford explain how prophets are called and trained. With a great passion and urgency, they challenge all intercessors to realize and understand their vital role in the world today and how closely they must work with the prophets. John and Paula Sandford clearly explain: What it means to be called and trained as a prophet or intercessor How to understand dreams and visions and hear directly from God Why it is important for the body to work in unity This book is filled with spiritual discoveries that will effect dynamic changes in every reader. John Sandford founding Elijah House. Paula Sandford was active in the churches in music and Christian education My thoughts: The Big Beef. Early on in the book, the authors asserted something to the effect that a prophet “must stand mute before the will of another.” It’s the idea that a prophet should not beat people over the head with his or her message, or impose his or her will on another. This concept is in line with the biblical principle that “a servant of the Lord must not strive” (2 Timothy 2:24), and within this context, I wholly agree with what John and Paula Sandford presented. My Big Takeaways. The point is not that people know that prophecy is one of my spiritual gifts, the point is not that I must always share what I’ve received, the point is not to beat people into my way of thinking (or to persuade them that my way of thinking is God’s way of thinking). The point is to direct people to Christ and His riches, and to do it humbly, recognizing I’m every bit in need of Him as anyone else. The point is to intercede for people, to boldly bring them and whatever circumstances have been revealed before the throne of grace, expecting God to act, because after all, He brought them to you. The point is to present the truth lovingly and graciously and if necessary indirectly (asking questions, using metaphors/analogies/symbols/allegories). The point is to recognize that humans like to come to their own conclusions and to give them freedom to do that. (I think this is the best application of standing “mute before the will of another”). John Loren and Paula Sandford, ‘The Elijah Task: A Call to Today’s Prophets and Intercessors‘ |
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Posted By: kelly Tuller
Date Posted: 10/23/2015 at 4:21pm
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http://www.kingwatch.co.nz/Prophet.htm
click on the prophetic pitfalls Prophetic Pitfalls Dangers to this ministry |
Posted By: JaneGreenstein
Date Posted: 10/24/2015 at 8:53am
 Kelly, you say to click the link - but nothing is linked on my end------------- Jane Greenstein |
Posted By: Cindy Glinski
Date Posted: 10/26/2015 at 12:45am
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Jane,
If you copy and paste the link into your browser it does work. Then when you are on the website click on Prophetic pitfalls. Cindy |