Honoring Spiritual Parents While Growing Beyond
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Topic: Honoring Spiritual Parents While Growing Beyond
Posted By: Ron McGatlin
Subject: Honoring Spiritual Parents While Growing Beyond
Date Posted: 06/25/2008 at 7:59am
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Honoring Spiritual Parents While Growing Beyond
By Ron McGatlin
Multitudes of hungry grieving people are sensing two major faith foundations shaking. They are becoming aware that the solid ground their parents stood on and that they stand on is coming apart as great cracks appear from the tearing force of the great shaking of transition.
In their spirits they have seen a new land - a clean pure land filled with the fresh clear water of real holiness - a land of precious life arising from within them and flowing around them as peace and pure joy - a land without corruption and strife - a land where children are loved and reared in holy tenderness - a land where love fills the atmosphere like oxygen charging their hearts with energy of holy life - a land illuminated with the glory of God and no darkness prevails.
These hungering people have tasted life in the presence of God in outpourings of the Holy Spirit and cannot go back to life as before. They simply are desperate for more of the life they have tasted in the glory of God. Like the disciples gathered in the upper room at Pentecost in a moment of time the Holy Spirit has come upon and within them and the fire of God has supercharged everything regarding their faith and life.
The first foundation giving way is their dependence and trust in the church of their parents that they grew up in. Spiritual eyes are opening to the empty liturgy and forms of the dead or lukewarm church systems that their faith has rested in. Even many of those in which Pentecostal life has come are being exposed as a mixture containing both God’s works and the foolishness of men. Unbridled merchandising of the works of God is being exposed to the people who have seen the new holy land in their spirits. Their foundation of church as they have known it is crumbling before their eyes and causing great grief as many as the blessed, time-honored traditions are falling upon the alter of holiness and kingdom reality. The pure Ekklesia of God is coming together in spots here and there.
The second foundation crumbling is the strength of man, especially the dependency and trust in men finding solutions to solve all problems and bring pleasurable living. The trust in education to train the natural minds of people to discover marvelous scientific solutions and develop tools and weapons beyond what we could have imagined a few decades ago is failing to be a suitable foundation for life. The foundation of trust in the strengths and wisdom of men has produced haughty proud and lofty people at enmity with God which is falling with a frightening crashing sound sending the smoke of its destruction toward heaven. Human governments in which we have trusted are failing as strife and corruption erodes even the best of them. The great economies that made us rich are crumbling.
Honor Your Spiritual Parents
Eph 6:2-3: "Honor your father and mother," which is the first commandment with promise: that it may be well with you and you may live long on the earth."
The temptation is to be less than honoring to the church systems and mixtures that God has used to bring many of us into knowledge of the Bible and the basic faith in Jesus as savior. Even those who have helped us move into a greater experience in the Holy Spirit and then are uncovered as mixtures are to be honored for the works of God that flowed though them. We will not do well if we do not honor our parents. We should despise the foolishness of men that was in them but must make a distinction. We must honor our parents and grow past where they were to enter the pure holy land of the reality of the kingdom of God that is before us. We must love and follow Jesus more than our parents.
Mat 10:37: He who loves father or mother more than Me is not worthy of Me.
The foundation of human education, endeavor and accomplishment must also be honored as it has provided much to spread the gospel of the kingdom. Only by the God given abilities given to man can he do anything. Yes, it was filled with the mixture of the blessings of God and the foolishness of lofty pride, greed and lust of men. However, many of us, especially those like me that are older would not even be alive without the works of medicine that has prolonged our lives. Without the scientific advances of the past decades you could not even be reading this electronic communication. Marvelous life saving and communication tools are just a small part of what God has allowed the minds of men to bring forth.
Is it that God wanted me and you to be alive and wanted us to have these means of instant communication to bring forth the gospel of the kingdom to the world?
In many countries the government has provided a safe environment for the preaching of the word of God and reasonable safety to worship God. The past strong economies of the western world have provided funds to spread the gospel to the world. Yet, the corruption is there. Yielding to the temptation to despise and not honor our parents will not be good for us. Honor our parents for the good works of God that have been provided and despise the shame.
Natural parents pass away and the children live on to parent the next generation. So it is also in the spiritual. In this season of restoration and transformation, greater ways of God are being revealed and imparted. The passing of the old is part of making room for the glorious kingdom of God life to grow into the land.
We honor the parents of the past and move onward into increased holiness and purity of God that allows the love and power of God to flow to the world proclaiming the glorious kingdom of God with signs and wonders. We must place our faith and trust into the only true foundation of life, Christ Jesus the Lord and King. There is no mixture in the kingdom of God and there is no one who enters the New Jerusalem lifestyle that defiles.
Rev 21:27: But there shall by no means enter it anything that defiles, or causes an abomination or a lie.
The godly people of each generation since the beginning of the reformation from the dark ages have been freer and less affected by the darkness of the past than the previous generation of God’s people. There has been a continuing movement through layers of revelation and restoration of the things of God and His kingdom. However, in recent generations there has also been a massive movement in the ungodly secular world toward increased darkness and evil ways.
The true Ekklesia is forming at ground level and can be enhanced by receiving the powerful anointing from the mixed revival that is among us today. Grab the God part and cary it to the pure and holy reality of Holy Spirit led powerful ministry in house churches, small groups, large groups and spontaneous worship venues that can draw thousands into holy worship and powerful praise. Learn to worship, praise, and move in miracle anointing from the recent past and current revivals. The revival anointing is from God the system is not. Make the distinction and do not be drawn after any man back into the passing systems of men. Follow Christ Jesus in any person as far as you can see Christ flowing in them. Follow the love and the powerful presence of God. If there is not His love and presence do not follow. Become carriers of the revival anointing and the light of God into every dark corner of secularism and religion in your area. Receive the FIRE and move out to show forth Christ and preach the gospel of the kingdom to the person next to you in demonstration of love and power. There is a vast difference between false and mixture. If it is a mixture due to immaturity or incomplete reformation then it is part God and the contamination may be removed by receiving the next layer of revelation and reformation from God. Only those who have moved into the next layer will clearly see the mixture from the past in a person or ministry. False on the other hand has its origin in the enemy and is some form of occult sorcery or witchcraft. Calling a move false implies there is nothing of God in it and it is not a work in process but a lying deception usually a counterfeit made to look like the real.
False is a key word used by the enemy to perpetrate his lies against the moves of love and power of God that are threatening to destroy forever the enemies hold on the earth. His powerful tool of religion and all his works of fear, lust and pride are endangered by the tsunami of God's Spirit upon a hungry people worldwide. The great transition is here and it is real. Move with holy fire and love and by it first change yourself, your family, your neighbor and it will multiply to the villages, towns, and cities of the world. Do not be deterred and do not be slowed by the screams of the enemy that says all is false.
I say again. Receive the fresh fire anointing but DO NOT REPLICATE the wineskin and trappings of the past mixture in your pure, holy hearts and ministries. Receive and bless the people and the anointing of God flowing within the revivals but discern the mixture and leave it there. Take the anointing, take the fire, take the power, into your hearts and lives and continue to follow Christ as your King and Head. Continue to relate to your Heavenly Father and do not follow another. Follow any person as far as you see Christ the Shepherd but do not follow the ways of religion and the fallen world in any person. God is doing a NEW THING - at least new to us. True holiness, true righteous living, true miracle working power, true unconditional love and true kingdom of heaven reality coming forth on earth at ground level or in some cases underground.
Be crucified and live. There is no resurrection except there first be a death. Keep on pursuing love.
It never fails. Ron McGatlin Coordinator OpenHeaven.com http://archive.openheaven.com/" target=_blank eudora="autourl - mailto:basileia@earthlink.net - |
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Posted By: Prema Laban
Date Posted: 06/25/2008 at 3:28pm
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Ron Thank you once again for the clarity of the trumpet: it is SO needed to focus us on the TRUTH about the kingdom. Paul in Colossians 1 said that the divine stewardship entrusted to him was to make known the glorious truth, the mystery hidden for ages and generations: Christ within and among us, the hope of glory. The Amplified Bible puts it like this: Christ within you, the hope of realizing the glory. So much has been said and done when we were in the old wineskin mentality about the glory and our desire for it but we now understand by the Holy Spirit that as long as our focus is on the external, we miss the awesome power of CHRIST WITHIN: this is where the true heart of the kingdom lies. The divine entrustment to us is to present every person mature full-grown, fully initiated, complete, and perfect in Christ by the superhuman energy which He works within us(Col 1:28-29 Ampl.) I was travelling when Todd wrote an open letter to the body of Christ and when I returned last week, I was led by the Holy Spirit to e-mail him: although i appreciated his heart intent which came through in his letter, about not being a source of offence to the body of Christ, i felt strongly that the hour has come when GOD HAS TO BE ENOUGH FOR US. A divine mandate has been given to us from the Father who actually picked us out for Himself in Christ and in Christ blesses us with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly realm, given by the Holy Spirit. He planned for the maturity of the times and the climax of the ages to unify all things and head them up and consummate them in Christ, things in heaven and things on the earth. We as God's heritage have been entrusted with keys to this eternal kingdom where Jesus rules as King. The Holy Spirit is the guarantee and it is only the complete surrender to Him that will allow Christ to be seen and not us. As amazing as an outpouring is, it is but the outer rings of movement similar to that seen when a pebble is cast into a pond: the ripples spread out and are evidence of an event that happened, that caused energy to enter a still body of water - but the ripples are not the source. The outpouring is evidence of the presence on the earth of Jesus Christ in a surrendered body of people. In seeking any other validation of the supernatural move of the Holy Spirit or in accrediting an outpouring we allow the mixture in us to be seen. In our old wineskin mentality that is externally based, we seek to preserve the sovereign movement of the water that we experienced by our own methods and we resort to formulas, packaging, marketing, validation, authentication - all done in the traditions of man. We fail to recognise the need in us to preserve our own legacy through that which is new by placing our name on it or giving our approval to it. Rather than embracing the change that comes with a sovereign outpouring of the Holy Spirit necessitating a new wineskin, we seek to layer the old wineskin with the veneer of that which is new: the fragrance and shine is superficial and will last for just a few seconds before the cracks in the old leather are seen. The inability of the old wineskin to contain the new wine will result in it bursting and being forced to end its existence. The price for this resistance is spilt new wine. We must never forget that the precious Holy Spirit is God and as such He is sovereign. He has come to reveal Jesus but the gentleness and meekness. love and compassion that reveals His nature must not be misunderstood as Him being at the beck and call of us, the redeemed. Touching what is His work, attempting to harness it for our own agendas, naming, claiming and tagging the evidence of His overwhelming love for us is a sign of our immaturity. It is time for us to come to maturity. It is time for us to die to our own way. Paul said: We shared in His crucifixion, it is no longer us that lives but Christ. Failure to live like dead men prolongs the mixture and Christ is not seen. In sharing in Christ's death, we died to the Law and all the Law's demands on us, so that we may live to and for God (Gal 2).Failure to remain dead men alive in Christ, activates the demands of the Law on us and brings death to the abundant life that is our inheriance in Jesus. In Colossians 3, Paul said: if then we have been raised with Christ to a new life, thus sharing His resurrection from the dead, we must aim at and seek the rich, eternal treasures that are above, where Christ is, seated at the right hand of God and set our minds and keep them set on what is above, not on the things that are on the earth. For as far as this world is concerned we have died. Our new, real life is hidden with Christ in God. Hasten the day Lord when we will stay dead so that Christ may live and breathe in us. Love always Prema
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Posted By: Ron McGatlin
Date Posted: 06/26/2008 at 1:10pm
Prema wrote:
Amen Prema, How true. Like children bickering and complaining because they want their way. |
Posted By: Dave Spencer
Date Posted: 06/26/2008 at 3:07pm
This is exactly what I saw in a vision two days ago, but I didn't understand what it meant until I read this!  With His Love, Dave |
Posted By: mariateresatee
Date Posted: 06/26/2008 at 8:35pm
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"We honor the parents of the past and move onward into increased holiness and purity of God that allows the love and power of God to flow to the world proclaiming the glorious kingdom of God with signs and wonders. We must place our faith and trust into the only true foundation of life, Christ Jesus the Lord and King. There is no mixture in the kingdom of God and there is no one who enters the New Jerusalem lifestyle that defiles. "Be crucified and live. There is no resurrection except there first be a death." Thank you, brother Ron, for this guiding word. ------------- In Father's love, Tere |
Posted By: Ron McGatlin
Date Posted: 06/28/2008 at 6:48pm
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There is a vast difference between false and mixture. If it is a mixture due to immaturity or incomplete reformation then it is part God and the contamination may be removed by receiving the next layer of revelation and reformation from God. Only those who have moved into the next layer will clearly see the mixture from the past in a person or ministry. False on the other hand has its origin in the enemy and is some form of occult sorcery or witchcraft. Calling a move false implies there is nothing of God in it and it is not a work in process but a lying deception usually a counterfeit made to look like the real.
False is a key word used by the enemy to perpetrate his lies against the moves of love and power of God that are threatening to destroy forever the enemies hold on the earth. His powerful tool of religion and all his works of fear, lust and pride are endangered by the tsunami of God's Spirit upon a hungry people worldwide. The great transition is here and it is real. Move with holy fire and love and by it first change yourself, your family, your neighbor and it will multiply to the villages, towns, and cities of the world. Do not be deterred and do not be slowed by the screams of the enemy that says all is false.
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