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JUDGING PROPHECY

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Topic: JUDGING PROPHECY

Posted By: Kriston Couchey
Subject: JUDGING PROPHECY
Date Posted: 09/28/2010 at 5:36pm

JUDGING PROPHECY
Kriston Couchey

ALL MAY PROPHESY
And prophets—let two or three speak, and let the others discern(judge), and if to another sitting anything may be revealed, let the first be silent; for you are able, one by one, all to prophesy, that all may learn, and all may be exhorted... ~Paul~

I am amazed at how prolifically Father speaks prophetically through a gathering of believers and through people He gives messages for His church. I would say in general most prophecy at it's core is genuine. It is my great desire to see the church function even more in the gift of prophecy because we NEED the pure word of the Lord. The command to judge prophecy is not given to prohibit or limit prophecy, it is given so that others may bring a clarity and discernment to a word from God and understand the fullness to what God is saying, while identifying mixture that tends to muddy and change the word of the Lord. Judging or discerning prophesy is not for the purpose of condemning or judging the person prophesying, but to help the body understand what God is saying and what He is not.

If you are like me, you have read and heard thousands of prophecies. We are commanded to judge prophecy for this reason: The one prophesying does not always have an complete understanding of the Lord's motivations behind His revelation. Man's immaturity or lack of understanding can change the meaning of a pure word from God. You probably also have come to realize that not every prophecy is of God, and may have mixture of opinion, doctrinal error, and personal agenda, etc.

AUTHORITY TO PROPHESY
Everyone can prophesy what the Lord is saying. Many release prophecy that is from the Lord but do not possess the authority to bring it forth because they do not have the Lord's heart in bringing it forth. In this instance, the mixture added to this prophecy can be more destructive then helpful. For example, years ago I was leading worship in a church and Father spoke to me to leave and go to the wilderness. He also spoke to me that the church was going to shrink to nearly nothing before it began to grow again. When I shared my departure with the worship team and pastor, I also shared the prophesy about the church shrinking in an angry way that hurt and offended the pastor. As a result, the prophesy brought hurt and offense and not brokenness. Brokenness is what God wanted during this time of barrenness for the fellowship. The authority to prophesy has at it's heart a love for people. If you do not love someone, you compromise your authority to prophesy to them even if you have heard the Lord clearly on a matter.

PROPHECY OUT OF OFFENSE
It is easy to vent frustration in the name of the Lord. One of the greatest sources of false or tainted prophecy is offense. I reject or closely judge a prophecy when I sense offense that is not resolved. For example: many who speak the destruction of the institutional church and it's people are still harboring bitterness toward those who have hurt them within it. While God is destroying the system of religion in the Institutional church, God is destroying a system, and loves people. There will be those who go down with the system that refuse to change, but we rejoice in Babylon (the diabolical system) falling, not the destruction of the wicked.

This mixture of offense happens frequently in political, national, or globally significant prophesy. People tend to prophesy their own agenda when they have not resolved a rest in the Lord in a particular arena. It's easy to prophesy gloom and doom when you are angry at your political leaders, or offended at a nation that opposes the nation you love. If you are offended by Islam it is easy to prophesy the death of Bin Laden rather then the salvation of Muslims. Offense is a snare that corrupts and twists prophecy. Jonahs problem was not just being too stubborn to go to Nineveh, he was offended and angry becasue of the evil done to his people by Nineveh. Even after obeying he did not want God to forgive the people, he wanted them dead.

Adding Your Personal Understanding to Prophecy
I know I have done this and have seen it done many times. God speaks forth a powerful word that may only be one sentence. We may add a lengthy addition that promotes a pet doctrine or interpret it by personal experience. It may not be bad what we add, but it is not always God.

Flattery through Prophecy
Prophecy can be given to puff up people or organizations. These prophecies are tainted with the desire to please men and increase your standing with those to whom you prophesy.

Control through Prophecy
Some prophecy demands submission to a leader, church, network, or an organization. This prophecy is tainted by control and can have MANY differing motivations. These motivations can run from a pastor tainting prophesy by informing a prophet of "rebellious" congregants ahead of time, to a prophet that simply does not understand true nature of spiritual authority.

Prophesying False Doctrine
False doctrine taints much prophesy today. Many prophecies are sourced in a religious mind. Being religious does not disqualify you to receive a prophesy from God, it means that your prophesy will be mixed and tainted with your false doctrinal understandings.

PROPHETIC REVELATION
There are also others sources of false or mixed prophesy that can come forth in a prophetic word. But, the source of true prophecy is the revelation of the person of the Lord Jesus Christ. The testimony (witness) of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy. Holy Spirit revelation witnesses of Christ's nature of and His authority. The only means of truly judging or discerning of prophecy is to know Jesus Christ as He is, for the spirit of Prophecy is found in the testimony or "witness" of who He is.

I personally judge prophecy by what He has revealed to me personally of Himself and His nature. What He reveals of Himself is always testified (witnessed) to in scripture.  As we learn to know His heart and ways, we recognize what is of Him and what is not. I pray that as you hear and read prophecy you are edified and challenged as He speaks. I also pray you are able to discern the difference between what God is saying and what is of man.

In His Love
Kriston Couchey

http://my.opera.com/Boanerges/blog/ - http://my.opera.com/Boanerges/blog/



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One of the chosen foolish and weak
http://my.opera.com/Boanerges/blog/ - http://my.opera.com/Boanerges/blog/
kcouchey@gmail.com


Replies:

Posted By: Dean Gibson
Date Posted: 09/28/2010 at 7:41pm

As always thx for your solid word!!




Posted By: Charity Miller
Date Posted: 09/28/2010 at 10:15pm

Thank you for posting this good teaching, Kriston.  Very important.  I am sure I've been guilty of some of these things, and I'm thanking Him for His grace and sovereignty tonight.  He will use even our mistakes for His glory.  Praise God!

 



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Weeping may endure through the night,
But a shout of joy comes in the morning!
Ps. 30:5



Posted By: Mandy Gay
Date Posted: 09/30/2010 at 6:55am

Hi,

Another issue is that to the natural man everything is natural... whereas to the spiritual man everything is spiritual.  So many prophetic words, visions and dreams are interpreted from the natural mindset instead of the spiritual, thus missing the intended meaning.



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Posted By: Stacey Yerian
Date Posted: 09/30/2010 at 10:05am

Many thanks for this post.  There are many great points made in this post that most of us have surely all experienced.  I was especially taken with these statements:

Kriston Couchey wrote:
Brokenness is what God wanted during this time of barrenness for the fellowship. The authority to prophesy has at it's heart a love for people. If you do not love someone, you compromise your authority to prophesy to them even if you have heard the Lord clearly on a matter.
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Yes.

Kriston Couchey wrote:
People tend to prophesy their own agenda when they have not resolved a rest in the Lord in a particular arena.
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Yes.

Loren Sanford's word posted later this same day is also very good.  Especially the statement made regarding the importance of intimacy in our relationships with the Lord being the bottom line. 

As we rest in Him and seek Him for relationship in and of itself without any other desire, He will speak to us.  Knowing whether or not to release a word given, when, where, and keeping it pure is the test. 

 



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From glory to glory,
Anastasia Lee




Posted By: Kriston Couchey
Date Posted: 09/30/2010 at 10:28am

Mandy it is very true,
MANY dreams and visions are taken literally when they have a spiritual significance when seen with the eyes of the Spirit. Many dreams with bombs and wars are not about literal events but are spiritual in nature. I have learned to interpret many dream and visions i have with a spiritual understanding for differing people, events, and objects that have particular meaning to the spiritual.

One reason this is true is peoples immaturity in Christ. Those who have not learned to see with their spirit eyes can be more interested in fleshly things but still do get revelation from God, but themselves don't really truly understand the meanings and can get messed up interpreting things in the natural.

I KNOW that there are also truly dreams and visions that DO refer to natural events. The funny thing is that it is those who have come to learn to see with spiritual eyes seem to be entrusted more with these because they are not interpreting these through a fleshly understanding mindset.

It is true that most dreams and visions are spiritual pictures. But, there truly are things from the Spirit and spoken of and prophesied scripture that speak to natural external events. It is not one or the other it is both. What God is trying to do is get the inside of the cup clean in order that the outside may then truly be cleansed.

The kingdom is practical and touches people where they are at in their spiritual, emotional, and physical needs, it applies to ALL of these including the world and it's events. One error many monks who made the inward journey had was they looked only in themselves and to spirit alone and missed the world around them going to hell.  This was in part due to a church that did not function in any way able to touch the world.

This is all changing, the kingdom (inward) is coming to earth (external) as it is in heaven (spiritual). The natural and spiritual are merging into one as it was in the beginning. No more separation of realities

In His Love
Kriston


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One of the chosen foolish and weak
http://my.opera.com/Boanerges/blog/ - http://my.opera.com/Boanerges/blog/
kcouchey@gmail.com



Posted By: Mandy Gay
Date Posted: 10/01/2010 at 1:56am

Kriston Couchey wrote:

What God is trying to do is get the inside of the cup clean in order that the outside may then truly be cleansed.

Hi Kris,

Yes, this is what I am seeing too.  Since coming to see my dreams etc from the inner/spiritual perspective I have gained much benefit in regards to this cleaning of the inside of the cup... so that the outside is also clean and ready to touch the world. 

This is the area so far in which I have been given insight and so I feel free to speak on this.  I am open to the Lord shifting and expanding my viewpoint and so I thank you for your words,

In His Love,

Mandy



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Posted By: Helen Overholt
Date Posted: 10/01/2010 at 2:11pm

 Kriston Released:

As we learn to know His heart and ways, we recognize what is of Him and what is not.

Amen & Amen & Amen

My apologies for not placing your quote within a box. i have forgotten how to do that.....Smiles....



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