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B.KeithChadwell
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Posted: 01/23/2016 at 12:05pm
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What are we looking for...? ; B. Keith Chadwell
What are we looking for, "Natural" things or "Spiritual"
things??
If Christians continue to let their natural minds rule,
instead of minding the things of the Spirit, we will
continue to remain infants and not come to the maturity, in
Christ Jesus, that God has purposed for His church.
Come up higher, Church. We are NEW creations in Christ, old
things have passed away and all things have become new.
2nd Corinthians 5:16-17 (New Int. K.J.V.); "So, from now on
we regard no one from a worldly point of view. Though we
once regarded Christ in this way, we do so no longer.
Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a NEW CREATION; THE
OLD HAS GONE (†) THE NEW HAS COME!"
“Kingdom” or….”where the King has dominion”, which we are
not to look for, here and there. The Kings dominion is
within us and it is “at hand”.
Mat 5:20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness
shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees,
ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.
Act_14:22 Confirming the souls of the disciples, and
exhorting them to continue in the faith, and that we must
through much tribulation enter into the kingdom of God.
(coming under the dominion of the King)
To enter into that place where The King has total and
complete dominion is what we are talking about when "the
Kingdom of God" is referenced.
That is; God’s dominion...within us, ...within our hearts,
in this lifetime.
Does the King (God) have complete dominion in our hearts
when we first become "born again" Christians? If we are
honest, we know He does not. It is a process, just as being
born in the flesh and then growing from infancy to adulthood
is a process. Just as maturity in "the natural” is
progressive and requires mentoring and supervision and
discipline for success, so it is with our New Creation, our
new life in the Spirit.
I don't know about you, but I had my time in the wood shed
of discipline and bumped my nose and suffered the
consequences of many a wrong decision, in order to grow up
from infancy to a mature adult. I would even go so far as to
say that; "I went through much tribulation before I actually
grew into a reasonably responsible adult".
So why, do we still insist on looking for a literal Kingdom
that is, yet, someday to come?
Jesus told us, already, long ago..."My Kingdom is not of
this world"... So, right away, our natural mind wants to
make something out of this that we can see, smell, feel,
taste or hear with our natural bodily senses.
He also told us, not to look for it, here or there, because
"it is within us". He told us, then, over 2,000 years ago,
also, it is..."at hand". So, God’s rule in our hearts has
been available to believers for a long, long time. Man's
natural mind has made some strange leavened doctrine out of
this.
2nd Corinthians 5:16-17 (New Int. K.J.V.); "So, from now on
we regard no one from a worldly point of view. Though we
once regarded Christ in this way, we do so no longer.
Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a NEW CREATION; THE
OLD HAS GONE (†) THE NEW HAS COME!"
Come up, higher, Church. Jesus lives, in our hearts, today,
if we believe on Him and are truly born of His Spirit. Do
not think you must wait for Him to come, or go up to heaven
to live and reign with Him in life.
His dominion is available, today, through the submission of
our fleshly desires for the Spirit to change. Only He can
change our hearts to conform to His divine nature. We fall
short, because we think we must do the work required to obey
His laws with our natural ability or grit our teeth resolve,
in the strength and resolve of our natural flesh. That is
the shortfall of Christian teaching, today and one of the
major reasons the Church is still drinking milk and unable
to eat strong meat. We cannot, in the strength of our
natural flesh, produce, from our hearts, His manifest
righteousness. It is His work and His, strange work, alone.
True, this will be hard on our fleshly desires and our
stubborn fleshly will and our pride. It will require
"tribulation" and thrashings of various kinds in order to
for Him to produce and then, consistently, manifest His
divine nature in us. It will require the "fire" of the Holy
Spirit in order to burn up the hay wood and stubble in our
lives. However, it is His work, not ours. We can only choose
to submit ourselves to His work, whatever and whenever.
But… we are talking New Creation talk...not of natural
things. So, don't be looking for a big green John Deer
thrashing machine to run you down or a flame thrower to
whoosh in on you to burn up the chaff in your life.
Maturity in the Spirit will require the fire and the
threshing in your life, for sure, in order for the Lord to
burn up those things up that won't be eternal. It is through
this fire and threshing that will come forth, from our
hearts, His manifest righteousness, His light to the world.
It is the only way to participate with Father God in doing
His will and glorifying Him, again, in the earth, as Jesus
did.
This will be God working in you, both to will and to do His
good pleasure. This will be the process of developing His
divine nature and maturing you, in the Spirit, unto the
stature and measure of Christ. Even, unto manifest Sons of
God.
Creation is groaning and is in travail....waiting for us to
be manifest to the world.
What are we waiting for; "The Kingdom of Heaven's at Hand".
(ISV) Isa 32:17 The effect of righteousness will be peace,
and the result of righteousness will be quietness and
confidence forever.
(KJV) Isa_32:17 And the work of righteousness shall be
peace; and the effect of righteousness quietness and
assurance for ever.
Mic_4:6 In that day, saith the LORD, will I assemble her
that halteth, and I will gather her that is driven out, and
her that I have afflicted;
Zep_3:12 I will also leave in the midst of thee an afflicted
and poor people, and they shall trust in the name of the
LORD.
Mat 5:3 Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the
kingdom of heaven.
Psa_119:67 Before I was afflicted I went astray: but now
have I kept thy word.
Psa_119:71 It is good for me that I have been afflicted;
that I might learn thy statutes.
Psa_119:75 I know, O LORD, that thy judgments are right, and
that thou in faithfulness hast afflicted me.
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Karen Samford
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Posted: 01/23/2016 at 2:42pm
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Ty for sharing Kieth this is a very good word.I just have
one question on the meaning of something you said.You
said,"So why, do we still insist on looking for a literal
Kingdom
that is, yet, someday to come?" Could you please explain
to me what you mean?
I believe the kingdom cometh not with observation. The
kingdom is with in. He is righteousness, peace and joy
in the holyspirit. Jesus is the King of the kingdom and
the seeds are the children of the kingdom.Jesus of course
is the corn of wheat that fell into the ground to bring
many sons unto glory.
Matthew 13:38
The field is the world; the good seed are the children of
the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked
one;
John 12:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except a corn
of wheat fall into the ground and die, it abideth alone:
but if it die, it bringeth forth much fruit.
Daniel 2:45 "In the days of those kings the God of heaven
will set up a kingdom which will never be destroyed, and
that kingdom will not be left for another people; it will
crush and put an end to all these kingdoms, but it will
itself endure forever. 45"Inasmuch as you saw that a
stone was cut out of the mountain without hands and that
it crushed the iron, the bronze, the clay, the silver and
the gold, the great God has made known to the king what
will take place in the future; so the dream is true and
its interpretation is trustworthy."
The Lord has been showing me the scripture that says it's
through much tribulation that we enter his kingdom.We are
already in tribulation.
Edited by Karen Samford on 01/23/2016 at 4:25pm
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B.KeithChadwell
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Posted: 01/24/2016 at 10:06am
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Hi Karen, thanks for your response. Your question is so
important:
"So why do we insist on looking for a literal Kingdom that
is yet, someday to come?"
I have written a short digital book that is free to download
on my website. it is titled: "The Kingdom of Heaven is at
Hand".
I think it will help answer the above question and many
others along that line. www.highcountryministry.com
However, Over 2000 years ago Jesus said to his followers:
“Beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and of the
Sadducees”! It is obvious if we analyze this; that a
little yeast in a wad of flour and water will leaven the
whole amount of dough. What is not quite so obvious is that
Jesus was saying in effect; it would take only a small
amount of Pharisee/Sadducee type of thinking to permeate and
cause great harm to the followers of Christ.
The Pharisees of 30 A.D. were legalists, believing that the
disposition of the heart was less vital than the outward
act.
The Sadducees, on the other hand refused to accept any
doctrine which they could not prove by pure reason.
Apparently Jewish leaders in Jesus day assumed the Messiah
was to come in the natural. Perhaps, coming on a white
charging horse, with a physical army, to depose the existing
Roman Empire and then to set up His world government or
Kingdom in its place.
Jesus did not do that. He did not meet the expectations of
the Jewish leadership, according to their natural and
traditional understanding of scriptures. So, primarily
because of their leadership, the Jews, as a whole, rejected
Jesus as the promised Messiah. Therefore, in 70 AD, came
the destruction of Jerusalem and the Jewish state. Jews,
even to this day are still looking for a messiah who has
already come.
Not heeding Jesus warning, some early Christians allowed the
leaven of the Pharisees and Sadducees to creep into their
legitimate teaching and understanding of scriptures. These
leavened teachings became Christians traditions and were
passed down, along with a lot of truth, from generation to
generation.
Today, many Christians (like many Jews) are still looking
for the Messiah to come a second time to establish his
Kingdom in the earth. As with Jews of old, they continue
to screen some of their beliefs and expectations through the
leavened lump of traditional, inherited scriptural
understanding.
Today, some of the rational for this type of theology
suggests that “Jesus didn’t even establish a Kingdom in
Palestine, let alone the whole earth.” Therefore, some
Christians, erroneously conclude that; “The Kingdom” will be
set up at His “second coming”. The effects of this type of
erroneous theology is incalculable and repeats the same
mistake the Jewish religious leadership made some 2000 years
ago.
Like many highly visible Christian theologians and leaders
today, the Pharisees and Sadducees of old were considered to
be the religious elite, some of the most respected religious
people of the day. People looked to them for interpretation
and teaching of scripture and the laws of God. Yet… Jesus
taught His disciples to beware of the Leaven of the
Pharisees and Sadducees.
Hope all this helps....take a look at some of the other
teachings on this at my website:
www.highcountryministry.com
Thanks Keith
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Karen Samford
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Posted: 01/24/2016 at 10:36am
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Ty Kieth you book sounds interesting. I will check it out
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Karen Samford
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Posted: 01/26/2016 at 10:31am
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Listened to this on audio ty for sharing.You said it
takes time from the planting of the Lord to the harvest
this so true.Thank the Lord he is so patient.
James 5:7 Be patient therefore, brethren, unto the coming
of the Lord. Behold, the husbandman waiteth for the
precious fruit of the earth, and hath long patience for
it, until he receive the early and latter rain.
Mark 4
26.And he said, So is the kingdom of God, as if a man
should cast seed into the ground;
27 And should sleep, and rise night and day, and the seed
should spring and grow up, he knoweth not how.
28 For the earth bringeth forth fruit of herself; first
the blade, then the ear, after that the full corn in the
ear.
29 But when the fruit is brought forth, immediately he
putteth in the sickle, because the harvest is come.
30 And he said, Whereunto shall we liken the kingdom of
God? or with what comparison shall we compare it?
31 It is like a grain of mustard seed, which, when it is
sown in the earth, is less than all the seeds that be in
the earth:
32 But when it is sown, it groweth up, and becometh
greater than all herbs, and shooteth out great branches;
so that the fowls of the air may lodge under the shadow
of it.
33 And with many such parables spake he the word unto
them, as they were able to hear it.
334 But without a parable spake he not unto them: and
when they were alone, he expounded all things to his
disciples.
Galations6:8
Do not be deceived, God is not mocked; for whatever a man
sows, this he will also reap. 8. For the one who sows to
his own flesh will from the flesh reap corruption, but
the one who sows to the Spirit will from the Spirit reap
eternal life. 9.Let us not lose heart in doing good, for
in due time we will reap if we do not grow weary.…
2 Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as
in my presence only, but now much more in my absence,
work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.
Philippians 2:13 For it is God which worketh in you both
to will and to do of his good pleasure.
14 Do all things without murmurings and disputings:
Edited by Karen Samford on 01/26/2016 at 10:43am
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Dorris Coulson
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A few things: God showed me many are missing HIM cause they are looking for something else. Recently I felt HIS tears due to the immaturity, cause the warnings are over and they will suffer judgment, not the wrath but judgment. Then they will decide on an adjustment or be on the wrong side of the fence, actually hurting Gods people. For some Pollyanna stuff rules, with them, "God is Love so we can only say good and happy things". Sometimes the truth IS negative. This is another one of the lies he wants to overtake with Truth. This is actually another part of HIS love. There are laws of the Spirit and you can go so long the wrong way if you choose, but eventually time is up and a decision will have to be made.
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