Posted: 01/08/2009 at 11:44am | IP Logged

TY, my Brother Loren,,,most readily accepted this into my heart,,,Ps.29, a daily must for those of us that want confirmation we will receive the strength needed to go through(not stay in), but go through the fire, the flood. If you walk through the water it will not overflow you, when you walk through the fire you will not be burned; neither will the flame kindle upon you." For YOU are the LORD my GOD, my PRINCE OF PEACE, and I will celebrate YOUR glory and strength!!! \o/\o/\o/ Love you ALL-prayin' & decreein' & rejoicin'-"Thou, O Lord, are a shield for me, my glory and the lifter of my head." "Because you love ME", says the Lord, "I will rescue you; I will protect you, for you acknowledge MY name. As you call upon ME, I will answer you; I will be with you in trouble, I will deliver you and honor you. With long life I will satisfy you and show you MY salvation." (((HALLELUJAH TO KING JESUS)))!!!

Posted: 01/08/2009 at 1:07pm | IP Logged

Loren something amazing is happening in you ! I pray Gods richest blessing upon your household and all He has entrusted into your hands. There is a awesome anointing on this word and to God be the glory.

I literally was just at a street corner called PIONEER and my phone rang, it was my daughter HOPE! I was hit with a shaft of light. I could feel HOPE (CHRIST) in me and all around me. I felt like the Lord was saying" I will restore and revive, I will birth that wich I have ordained from the foundations of the earth, my mercy triumphs, DREAM AND PROPHECY AGAIN!        I make a way where there seems to be no way.

below is a quote from your post:

The Lord then spoke to me directly the following word: "Forever greet the dawn. I open a season of hope in the midst of darkness - seeds of hope to announce the day. I have dampened the hopes of many and drained the color from many faces that they may seek Me. I open doors of prosperity to those who seek My ways to guide their steps. I will increase their joy in the midst of trials."

Loren this word has an awesome Spirit of creativity all over it. I can see it and feel it. Iam reminded of when there was darkness over the face of the deep and the SPIRIT OF GOD was hovering and GOD SPOKE "LET THERE BE LIGHT!"

To co-labour with God is a awesome humbling experience. His Word is near you brother and in your mouth. When you have this time as in times past touched on this there is a true prophetic mantle of Authority on you. I say this to BOAST IN THE LORD. It's a devil destroying mantle. It's a violent, furious love that will not, nor can be stopped SPIRIT.

For He shall Build His Church and the gates of hell shall not prevail. This word restores sanctified imagination, and thought life to the Saints. This Word releases the captives to dream and prophecy, it releases the harvesters to put the sickle in.

Father I pray in the awesome mighty name of JESUS CHRIST, let great grace and favour come like a mighty rushing wind, let it hit Newsong Fellowship like a tidal wave, yes let the lightning of  revelation strike these dear Saints, that they may know Jesus Christ and the POWER of His ressurection. Father I lift up my voice and thank you for the blood of Jesus Your Son  and that through His obediance, His sacrifice and ressurection the debt has been paid for complete salvation. Lord I call forth your wonderful Spirit, oh Holy Spirit thats in Loren and His Loved ones, Come sweet rain/REIGN of heaven, let winds and rains of refreshing come, let financial breakthrough come above and beyond, Father let healing come forth even greater than ever before, Father let lands and houses full of goods and cisterns already dug come to them for the glory of God (Nehimiah9), and God I thank you that you hear me, my daddy I ask for the hunger of Your heart for souls to fall afresh upon Newsong, Lord let the Joy of Your Salvation fill their hearts, yes my God let the name of Jesus be MAGNIFIED, let the name of the Lord be praised from the RISING OF THE SUN TO THE PLACE WHERE IT GOES DOWN, LET THE NAME OF THE LORD BE PRAISED. 

I hear it , I hear it right now, GIDEON , GIDEON, GIDEON, WATCH, WATCH, WATCH AND WONDER, BE IN WONDER OF MY GOODNESS AND GREATNESS, I SEE A PEOPLE, I SEE NEWSONG THEIR FACES ARE LIKE FLINT , THERE IS A HUGE FLAMING SWORD AND IT IS ALIVE, IT'S FROM EARTH TO HEAVEN AND FROM HEAVEN TO EARTH, IT IS ALIVE AND BREATHING, IT IS A OPEN WINDOW TO THE SUPERNATURAL FLOW OF THE KINGDOM OF GOD, TO THE VERY HEART OF GOD, NOTHING NOTHING ON EARTH ABOVE IT OR BELOW IT CAN STOP THE SONG OF THE LORD I HAVE PUT IN YOU'S , YES LET THE HIGH PRAISES OF GOD BE IN YOUR MOUTH AND A DOUBLE EDGED SWORD BE IN YOUR HAND, COME UP HERE AND I WILL SHOW YOU GREAT THINGS , MIGHTY THINGS, AWESOME THINGS WHICH MUST TAKE PLACE, STAND UP ON THE MOUNTAIN FOR I HAVE PLACED MY TRUMPET IN YOUR MOUTH(S) AND YOU SHALL DECLARE TO THE NATIONS WHAT YOU SEE

I SEE A KITHCHEN SINK AND THIS IS A PLACE OF IMPORTANCE LOREN, IAM NOT SURE WHAT THAT MAY MEAN TO YOU AND ABOVE THE SINK ON THE WALL IS JERIMIAH 33:3

again I saw the number 3 and the word " AWESOME"

He confirms his word with signs and wonders,

much love Zach and family

Posted: 01/10/2009 at 7:12pm | IP Logged

Loren, Just want to let you know that your comments about these mean forums really hurt. I am also sure some of the other volunteers who serve faithfully trying to keep things peaceful and edifying here for all who come by will also feel pain from your statements. We really try hard. And I have had many people testify of the love and fellowship they find on OH forums especially as compared to many other forums they have experienced.

I know we don't do it perfect in keeping the bad remarks down but you need to know that there are a bunch of really loving Jesus people who fellowship here. I don't for an instant believe that your intent is to cause pain and discouragement among those that try so to keep this place in good order for you and several thousand others who come by regularly.

Loren, we love you and highly respect you. I am truly sorry that you have the impression of OH that you do. I sincerely apologize for your unpleasant experiences here.

Keep on pursuing love.
It never fails.

Ron McGatlin
Coordinator OpenHeaven.com

archive.openheaven.com
basileia@earthlink.net

Posted: 01/10/2009 at 8:56pm | IP Logged

Not to get too far off the topic subject but...there's the but*smiles*..in order to maybe help us distinguish some of the characteristics of an organization compared to an organism. Looking into biology we see a living organism which has these characteristic: orderly structure, produce offspring, grow, develope and adjusts to changes in the enviroment

Organization within the context of the church being a living organism has this meaning as well as in biology : orderly structure of cells in an organism 

An organization is not the people, but the people do have organization

It can get into further in seeing the need of the local church( living organism) and community...the coming together(community) of these local churches where there is then a thriving within the region where it/they are planted.

In looking again, just in biology..it is all relational. For sure Roms.1:20

blessings all,

Posted: 01/11/2009 at 12:24am | IP Logged

hello Loren!

i've been doing some biology studying along with my daughter and i was completely in awe of how His creation speaks into these things. There are a number of terms when looking into that must be looked in scientific definition..not webster definitions.  He is absolutely glorious! "For the invisible things of Him from the creation of the world are cleary seen, being understood by the things that are made.."

Two really well written articles are :

Ron's: KINGDOM DISCIPLESHIP

Don Atkin : ACCOUNTABILITY’S ROLE IN REFORMATION - Don Atkin

*deleted post and placed the correct link of Don's which i was speaking of. all done, as i don't want to take away from the original topic :))

Posted: 01/11/2009 at 6:42pm | IP Logged

i wanted to share this picture as an example of a blooming community of flowers in a desert. it is a picture of hope to me..Christ in you the hope of glory. While yes, individually, there is fuller display in oneness of community. Each plant intricately designed making an open display of His glory and yet look what one sees in the coming/gathering together, ..greater glory! The Beauty of His Splendor, His Majesty is seen. We can then undertsand a bit further when is said in portion of..Isa.60

      Arise, shine;
      For your light has come!
      And the glory of the LORD is risen upon you.
       2 For behold, the darkness shall cover the earth,
      And deep darkness the people;
      But the LORD will arise over you,
      And His glory will be seen upon you.
       3 The Gentiles shall come to your light,
      And kings to the brightness of your rising.
       4 “ Lift up your eyes all around, and see:
      They all gather together, they come to you;
      Your sons shall come from afar,
      And your daughters shall be nursed at your side.
       5 Then you shall see and become radiant,
      And your heart shall swell with joy;
      Because the abundance of the sea shall be turned to you

web address of picture: http://www.atacamaphoto.com/atacama-flora/atacama-flora29.ht m

Posted: 01/12/2009 at 9:03am | IP Logged

This dream to me, recieved by a brother Ralph Ackey, says it all ... it speaks of the "organized" or classical church and the church as the people - the church as the least of us.  What is interesting is they are both the church. A theme that  came up a thousand years ago and that will continue to come up is WHO IS THE CHURCH ? Who are the elect? The elite ? The saved? The unsaved? Hmmmmm ....

Blessings, Vincent

Several months ago, I dreamed a dream.  In this dream that I believe was from God for instructing and challenging the Body of Christ, I was an observer inside a huge church with mahogany pews, altar, and exquisite wood work.  Low light and darkness prevailed with a bit of light in front.  There were not many people there at all...no activity, no sense of the presence of God.  I was at the side looking on when in walked a young, unmarried couple with tattoos, spiked hair and a punky, streetwise way about them.  Clearly, they were seeking not to disrupt but how they might fit in but they were not welcome by the few who were there in attendance.  In fact, they were ushered out a seemingly invisible side door near the wall.  I watched as they were 'shown the door' and my spirit man followed them.  Once outside, the absolutely blinding light of the noon day sun (I remember that indeed, it was high noon and that the sun was at it's zenith!) attacked all my senses in a good way.  I saw the couple in front of me suddenly changed and transformed by that light with just a few people around them on a podium that overlooked a city in the clear, blue sky.  The scene shifted time abruptly and I found that I didn't move from the church itself but was back inside it's dark walls.  This time, there seemed to be a bit more activity.  Flowers adorned the inside top of each of the pews for an upcoming celebration of some kind.  As I pondered what sort of 'party' or celebration might be shortly taking place, I noticed a commotion toward the back of the church and in walked a couple, hand-in-hand, preparing to get married, decked out to the hilt, wedding gown, etc.  like they had just come out of GQ or Vogue magazine.  As I looked closely at them, I noticed it was this same couple that had been kicked out of this very church and had been transformed by the light of God outside.  None of the church folks knew it was them because they looked so different on the outside but they were glad to be throwing a wedding party (although, I had this sense that they had already gotten married, that this was more perfunctory ceremony of some kind)...then I awoke. 

   I think the message is obvious from the Lord...He wants a bride that is willing to eschew the trappings of religion, allow herself to be thrust out of the four walls of a tradition that has long ceased informing and inspiring and where there is nothing but death and darkness coupled with the hint (the beautiful mahogny furniture) that something spiritually invigorating and wonderful had once been there but long ago and not passed on....thrust into the Light of His noon-day presence where He is free to transform and redeem without the restrictions of man-made religion that constricts and suffocates.  The couple comes back in to this dying church in complete humility, willing to go to the very people who had showed them the door and work for change within.  The church does not notice them, nor will it notice us...that is okay as long as we have the hope that one day they will see Christ and real transformation of His bride can happen.  Those who do not see this will, unwittingly,  be celebrating, as this church did, the real wedding of Christ to His bride!  Praise God!!

Posted: 01/12/2009 at 10:40am | IP Logged

Yes thanks Pastor,

Such is the Nature of OUR Wonderful God. Healing US by exposing our divisions BY illuminating what it means to be in the midst of US !

Posted: 01/29/2009 at 8:41am | IP Logged

There are some great things in this post , The comments in the post about prophetic words Accountability by Fred London also touch on some of what was said here.

Saints take a look and see the thread that the Holy Spirit is weaving .

shalom........zachary