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It should be no surprise that in standing on the word. That the word of God tells us something altogether different than the realm of religion is saying. And on this point I want to talk about the image of the beast.
The mark of the beast is a number based upon a man's name. Although the mark is based upon a name. The beast of Daniel on the other hand is not a man as explained by the word in Daniel but are empires. Yet religion has made the beast who's head that was wounded as unto death; into the image of a man. Even though John tells us that antichrist where many in his day (plural). Religion has made plural into singular and so made the beast of Daniel and Revelations into the image of a man. That they brought to life breathing and speaking; through the cinema arts of our times. As in the various movies.
The story they tell of this man goes contrary to the scriptures of faith. How this is; is the facet of the story where they say that the man receives a deadly wound to his head and then is ressurected by Satan who then inhabits the man. This part is blasphemy because Jesus said that He is the ressurection and the life. No one else can ressurect and give life. Satan can not give life. Hence to say so is blasphemy. "...and they blasphemed God..."
Now the scriptures tell us the beast are empires and so world governments. Yet man reinterpretted all of this into a boogy man. And caused people to bow down to the image in fear and confess that this is a word of God when it was merely men's fabrication and interpretation.
As for the son(s) of perdition. This is merely false prophets and false christ in the church who have peopled gathered up around them. And they can not be revealed for what they are as long as their works have not come to be exposed. And so when the people around them. Wake up and fall away leaving them uncovered and exposed. They will be revealed.
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Continuing - now the word worship means to glorify - magnify - bow to; as well as fear. And hence the false prophets of our day magnify the fear of this antichrist image more than they magnify the name of God. And thus they magnify the fear of the beast and the end times. Such that people have forgot the mighty power and providence of God. And want to run away into the wilderness to build them a bunker to hide out from the end times.
Now if you do not subscribe to this image then you are not orthodox and hence can not compete with them in the marketplace of religion where they buy and sell souls like cattle - they have numbered (demographics) and placed their mark or brand upon.
The antichrist hoards plural with all of their modern warfare technology and armies. Are merely nothing more than grasshoppers fleeing away at the feet of the Mighty One of Israel.
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The last scriptural point I want to make on this matter. Is in terms of who said what in Revelation 13:4 It does not say that God or His people go around saying "Who is like the beast? Who is able to make war with him?" Instead we read they that worship the beast say this. And so they magnify the name of the beast above the mighty name of the Mighty One Most High and blaspheme Him when they do.
God did not say no man was unable to make war with the beast. It is they who magnify the beast who say this. And they have no power other than to magnify fear in terms of doom and gloom - spirit of hopelessness preaching.
Well now if you do not subribe and so sign up to worship this image as the orthodox view of religion. Then they would excommunicate you and would prefer as it where you be cut off from the land of the living and crawl away and die. And thus call you a devil and so demonize you unto death. But we overcome the image by the word of our testimony and the blood of the Lamb.
The Mighty One is more than able to make war with the beast and the sons and daughters of the Mighty One is more than able too. We are more than conquorers and we read that we get the victory. The image of the beast is a paper tiger. And so this day this giant is dead; and it never had life in it to begin with. Jesus alone is the ressurection and the life.
If you have trouble wrapping your mind around this. Just make note of the scriptural definition of the beast in Daniel. Where we learn that the beast where kingdoms and so governments made up of men plural. Kings administraters armies etc. Babylon Media-Persia Greece and Rome and so stand upon the definitions give to us by the Word of God and not the definitions given to us by the religious words of men.
Some men look forwards more to the coming of a sigular antichrist; than the coming of Jesus Christ. Well it is ok to look up! Look up!
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Greater is the Mighty One of Israel who dwells in us; than he who is in the world.
It is time to slay some giants.
Those who look upon the image of the beast will look narrowly upon it in disgust and say "is this the thing the nations feared? And caused the world so much trouble?"
See now what happens when you refuse to magnify His mighty name? And some think it is funny and antiquated to call Him the Mighty One Most High? Hardly can you be blessed in this hour by not magnifying His name. The Hebrew name of El which translates into English as the Mighty One. Antiquated? Forgotten? You have forgotten your creator.
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Daniel,
Amen to that!!!
I believe the Lord showed me what the number 666 is all about.
6 man's intellect
6 man's creative abilities with his hands
6 man's physical strength
If a person depends on one of the above, instead of God's provisions, he has already given him or her self over to the Antichrist spirit.
God bless you,
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Thank you John; I would like to post something about the numbers 666 and 616 sometime when I have a full sized key board to use. I am using a Blackberry like phone key board to post with. Which goes wherever I go and so I am available to God everywhere I am.
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PLAIN TRUTH
"The Mighty One is more than able to make war with the beast and the sons
and daughters of the Mighty One is more than able too. We are more
than conquerors and we read that we get the victory. The image of the
beast is a paper tiger. And so this day this giant is dead; and it
never had life in it to begin with. Jesus alone is the resurrection and
the life."
My favorite part: "this giant is dead"- so be it.
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Thank you Jane. It is a good thing to understand the truth. And move on to looking at the growth and flourishing of the kingdom of Christ foretold of as the great and high mountain in Daniel 2. And so get on with life knowing that we have good reason to look up. Regardless of wars being stirred up or judgments coming upon the earth. We understand these to be birth pangs in the earth. And we know that the Mighty One is able to save us to the utmost under the shadow of His wings. Even in troubled times.
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Pin the tail on the antichrist figure is a popular game in this world. And name the villian is a spin off of that game. Yet it amounts to men wanting to have a scapegoat they can point to who is more evil than themself. Who although is suppose to be a man born in our times; is suppose to somehow be responcible for all of the evil that ever existed from the beginning of time?
The antichrist is a spirit that exist in many people plural. Even within the pulpits of many churches. As an angel of light and minister of righteousness. As a counterfiet believer. Not only as atheist. But as false Christ (false Christians) also.
In having made an image of the beast converted into a man. The world's eyes were taken away from beholding the multitude of antichrist at work in this world. To look only for one singular. While the work of antichrist plural flourished around them in mass. Which we can address through such things as learning to sellect better candidates for political office. As well as use our freedom of speech to address. Yet we have been hood winked by a play of light and shadows to fear a boogy man. A mere image fabricated by false christ with false interpretations of scritpure. And so the word of God foretold this in the image they made like unto the beast in Revelation 13.
In thinking that the growth of the kingdom of Christ can not begin till after the antichrist has come and gone. Men have not believed that such a kingdom could come. Although Jesus said nearly 2000 years ago: "Behold the kingdom of God has come; turn around (repent means turn around) and believe the good news (gospel means good news). And so the kingdom has been here for sometime growing slowly along the way. Until the stone that Daniel saw became a great and high mountain (the kingdom of Christ) which Daniel said would come about to fill the whole earth.
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Daniel,
Here your overview is interesting and as time goes Iam
working on a correction that is Christ like ,but "anti"
in Character so her is the Wisdom
All thing have Structure , Character ,a and f = an axiom
of truth that is description of Truth.
In character this being cal come in His Image and appear
as an Angle of Light and accordingly in do thing s
(function) to give the appearance of some one that is
Christ like, manifesting the prestige but in truth is an allusion.
We are created in His Image and Likeness but what is missing is Character. That means in his function minister
what appears to be a loving way, but in truth ( verses a
half Truth) he in Character cannot come close to us, so
as to be like minded in our understanding of Our Lords
Grace. foundational for peace and joy.
As a prophetic perception unlike the Structural perception the prophets looks a the character of a thing.
That where the power is and IN Christ Character He is
able to come to us ,be near us and if allowed in Spirit
be found In us, but this other entity as a being can only
be worshiped from afar. He can do so in the Knowledge of
God Word , but he cannot come to us in Truth, so he must
do something that will appear from afar that He is all
powerful and that accordingly is so overwhelming to see
that the very elect will be fooled is Christ does no
contrast His presence among us.
So we have the Structure of the Kingdom the King in
Character ,and the function via His way of righteously
being able to love another in Spirit and Truth
However Satan will have a Structure , and in Character
talk about his love ,but from afar because he has not the
Spirit of truth, and to function he will build a
structure that will look like and function like God
because it will be founded on his power to influence ,
impress, and overwhelm people who think this is the Kingdom of God being formed "physically on Earth with
might miracles...
So In spirit a propitious Love, but no Truth...
Many of the Evangelical churches site a movement that
will impress all the other religion of the world to unify around loving one another manifest Christ love toward
accepting other religions to manifest peace, and ? Well
this way (I say this on my on accord) it may be their
Religious United will indeed impress any Political Powers
of the world and if back by the science coming to us in a
alarming rate, be able to project this world leader
conception that this is indeed belongs to God,
All in Spirit via knowledge ,but not understanding of the
Truth...
In principle we have a earthy Kingdom that will manifest
a peace , and can function via its ecological and economical principles, but in character it will be
secures in fear requiring a device that dates the consciousnesses of it believers.
Si the it is a earthly (worldly) Religions in structure
with a character that relational way is indeed "anti" to
Christ Way, in that its sanctification is based on fear ( there for a membership externally secure) to justify (
justification) it way of living one another in a "better
way than God can provide for us if we walk as opposed to
run in out believe that the world has come to it end.
I believe the Lord showed me what the number 666 is all
about.
6 man's intellect
6 man's creative abilities with his hands
6 man's physical strength
If a person depends on one of the above, instead of God's
provisions, he has already given him or her self over to
the Antichrist spirit.
This is true if in Truth in principle because
John if there is no character behind the mind and the
body to do work ,then that void will be filled by a
spirit.
If Christ is withing us, then we are give to do what we
to "as unto the Lord: an manifest our belief in His
Approach to love yes, but to take time to do what we do
in Truth.
The system that is founded on the love of money must at
some point eliminate it character for justice for it to
retain it's influence within the root and the tree still
grows ,but then there is not fruit
Blessing it for is to worship together in Spirit of Love
yes, but that power is to manifest the Blessing of our
unity to build up the minds of those ( the renewing of
our minds ( living stone) as living sacrifices of the the Truth and nothing but the Truth...
First the Kingdom and second it Righteousness and now we
will find an entrance in to it "it" being ministered by
the Spirit of Truth...
Bro Larry
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Larry it is true that we worship Christ who is near to us and not afar off. Which I recall there is a scipture somewheres that says this very thing.
On the note of living stones and being a sacrifice for the Truth. If it were that more who would believe would sacrifice more of their time to be alone one on one with God and His written word. Believers would be better off and better fead as well as come to have Revelations. And so become a sacrifice through sacrifice of time to study in the presence of His Spirit as was His promise to send the Spirit of truth to lead us into truth. And there is only one truth the True Spirit leads us to which is His written word.
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Here is where Our Lord has me centered or being single in
my mind a a prophetic understanding of correction goes.
Accordingly the apostle have as a revelation and
understanding of how the power of Christ via the holy
spirit has the ability to "renew our minds" in that we
may be of the same mind in our understanding or approach
to worshiping Our Father in Heave in Spirit and Truth .
We gather to worship Christ in spirit as the expense /
time/ money /loss receiving His individual Revelation
Understanding for all involved.
This is what Our Lord has had me working on for the past
year. Several year back some as folks here know we
obeyed Our Lord of our lives and Ministry being
powerless. In truth we received revelation of the Kingdom
,but may still though they could meet real or virtual
space just to share knowledge and that would assure a
movement or revival ,but in truth as a Truth the apostle
of Old warn us of doing ( Gathering in an other way...
The reason being is that this worldly way eliminates
person presenting and receiving of individual Revelation,
because men and in charge of the Gathering.''
I am writing of this correction of just gathering and way
that does not allow a one by one experience in which time
is also give to let the prophets share and the give time
to test and Judge what is prophecy-ed, because that
prophecy may contain a healing or delivering work of
wisdom ( among the other Gifts of the Spirit) to change
the mind ( renew the minds of all there) = a new
understanding of God participation among them for the sanctification of their souls , empowering them with
Godly justification on how to love as brethren
functioning in the Kingdom.
But few have the patience to Gather and allow this to
unfold, before they run to and fro following some new
personality that appear to to be impressing everyone with
a new revelation, dream ,vision, or world event .
It appears as a matter of the richness and lust f the
flesh the false prophets will reject this Gathering to honor Christ until they find themselves in the fire of
his or her soul when their way of life o life style is
effected through some troublesome experience. Only then
will they begin to abide so as to not on hear the Revelation of Christ ,but remain until a Word of Wisdom
comes to them that is preventive as opposed to curative
in their experiences.
Man come to me in trouble and desire the Word of God .
They are very willing to know what they are to do as a
matter of correction to return to a righteous Way,but
draw away when they begin to understand that they must
abandon the worldly wisdom that are using to do what the
think is God s Will. Here is where they go back to
thinking of reusing a old traditional way of men to
please God.
However the temptation to be seen appearing at peace and in doing so retain the iniquity so not to become
"questionably offensive"
However the Gift of Discernment make aware in on of the
gatherig that more is to be understood manifested as the
Doctrine of Christ. So the apostle tell us not to
depart for how they had Gathered with Christ in a place
where the host had invited Christ to come and within the
minds of all there any offence was removed without
further hurt to those who desire to be right with other
involved in the life.
One the other hand there would be tose who would come and
refused to allow the Spirit to resolve their misunderstanding of the truth of the way they were to
accept and live in peace among all gathered and the
Apostle were quick to say to them they were frre to come
,but not to dishonor Christ of those being hosted until
he or she was willing in spirit to allow the Revelation
of Christ to be considered.
Without this wisdom most home meeting or Bible studies
last for about three weeks ,then if ther proceed to three
months, the Host in fear of allowing the freedom to the
Spirit to work, will author and correction and in doing
so He or she eliminates the Character of Christ allowing
the Truth of His Way to set those attending free of their
personal fears,
It is before me In our Lord to present this error to the
Body of Christ as that sin , in which will call many to
move to a righteous Way of the Truth in which the
Righteous Judgement of those Satan is using to destroy
the Unity of such Godly Gathering will be corrected.
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Larry thank you. My early experiences of sharing the word are examples of what you are saying. - More often than not a preacher or some notable personality would steal away the word I spoke by reinterpreting and spinning it around to mean something the Spirit of the written word did not say. And I recognized their spirits to be in opposition to the flow and work of the Holy Spirit and antichrist in nature. Making themselves a spiritual authority and controller of revelation. But today I am exercised in wisdom and know their ways and have words for them as well as exercise of authority through a greater understanding of the word and numerous revelations. And the word is not devoid of power.
In gathering together here in this space or anywheres. The spirit of the prophets is subject to the spirit of the other prophets who also have discernment of spirit. And we are to hear others as we ourselves are heard. And let the Holy Spirit point out things in the word to help confirm and or correct us.
If we put aside ourself and at home study and follow the Holy Spirit in the word for understanding and revelations. As well as partake of the anointing that is present when we assemble. Then we will be energizing the word in us. And pouring water on it. And our faith is likewise water poured upon the seed of the word. Then our minds are renewed through the Spirit and the word of faith which is the word of God.
You desire spiritual growth of each individual soul and so spiritual growth within the body of believers. Which I desire too and have had the Spirit of truth instruct me on the doctrine of faith to help others. As in justifcation and sanctification by faith. The word of promise by faith and the promise of the Holy Spirit by faith. The image of the word made flesh and the fleshly members of the body of Christ being this same image of the word dwelling in these earthly tabernacles.
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Larry I reponded in the previous post. Here I want to provided people with practical experience and an example of those who magnify the beast and end times by suggesting you listen to several broadcast of RG Stair and listen through several so that you get to those broadcast where he is magnfying the fear of the beast and end times. You may need to correct this link I am texting via phone:
http://www.overcomerministry.org/Listen.html
Look for the audio stream links in mp3 or Window etc.
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lol RG Stairs i have heard him on the local radio before. I am sure he is a man just very caught up in what he has been taught for so many years. I am sure his intentions are not to magnify the beast however if he himself is decived..he will. Every time i hear him I am reminded of the gopher from Whinnie the Pooh and I have to chuckle alittle:) ok sorry I probaly should not have shared that with such a serious thread, but I can't help it..it's true. In all seriousness, I understand what you are saying these types of teachings stir up much carnal fear and try to cause us to get our eyes off of the One who is truly awesome! Our Father in heaven who is great and mighty and above all these dark things!
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Janine if you compare him to the gopher ok; we all have a sense of humor too. I like your words "Our Father in heaven who is great and mighty and above all these dark things." Amen.
Now RG Stair has been charged by his own people for missuse of funds and their estates they contributed to him as well as inappropriate conduct with their young daughters and wives.
You can hear his listeners call in nearly to tears but mostly with a submissive spirit of having long give up hope of any light being found in this world except for RG Stair. Well there are many bright lights here in this forum who are not subject to dispair.
RG Stair is not only on many AM and FM stations across the USA. But on satelite and several shortwaves stations broadcasting around the world. He has millions of listeners world wide whom he tells he is the forerunner to the return of Jesus just as John the baptist was. And that he is the last day prophet of God to the world as well as the voice of the seven thunders. But he lacks love even for his listeners who call in because he chews them out on trivial points.
I heard his son who is a preacher tell us on another persons broadcast that his father has always been a womanizer and has been in trouble before over such things; as well as over missuse of funds.
He calls himself the Overcomer and so he over comes the light and hope of the listeners. And yet it is written that Jesus is the light and hope of the world.
RG Stair is but another son of perdition (meaning son of destruction) and they are plural not singular.
When their followers get tired of this and wake up; and fall away in great numbers. Then the son(s) of perdition are left standing alone to be unmasked and revealed for what they are.
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"When their followers get tired of this and wake up; and fall away in great numbers. Then the son(s) of perdition are left standing alone to be unmasked and revealed for what they are."
Oh my goodness! wow Daniel I have never ever had that pointed out to me in that light. I have always been taught the great falling away as from Jesus Christ. I just re-read that passage and you know what? It does not actually say the falling away is from Messiah. It just simply says unless the falling away comes first. So the day of Christ will come as those fall away from darkness and the man of sin is revealed. I am getting revelation as I write this out. I am thinking of my salvation experience as a "Day of the Lord". He shined His glory light on me, came without condemnation, revealed to me my sin and need for Him, and I saw the lies of the enemy for what they were and I fell away from the enemy. Now I am not trying to take this out of context, but I am seeing this all in a much different light than I did before and have always been taught..hmmm interesting:)
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OK there Janine you have light and understanding. And you have revelation too. It is for us to come to the light and have our understanding renewed. There is commonsense logic and reason to be found in the testimony of the word of God. But our understanding is darkened by reason of religious traditions and unspiritual religious interpretations.
God bless you forever and always.
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amen and amen! and God bless you forever and always!
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Thanks Daniel,
But in seems to be a matter of the prophets discerning
with in a very short time that this brethren young and
old alike are doing that they believe is at the heart of what was a Godly approach to prophecy, preach or teach
what I believe they are if young able to hear via the
Spirit and if old after many years the knowledge of the
Word of God via a Gentile mindset.
According to the wisdom of the World this way sounds like
,looks like, and feel like in that it appeal of the lust
of the flesh. But as you experienced that this way is
not the Way of God as Christ Way, in that even Satan can
site the Word of God and if there is any deception he
temps men to do is the same temptation he used on Our
Lord that if He would "cast himself down into the work of
the Temple then surly His Father would save him if things
cause him to stumble against what then was the perception
of those spiritual leaders of that day in time. In Principle the Priest had made sure the corner stone to
the Temple was via their own righteous way of proclaiming
that if you wanted to extend or exit this world you
better worship the Temple and or now in the power less
form of a Gentile approach worshiping God with their mouth ,but are far from responding to His reins that
would give direction as manifested Righteousness.
So here we are like minded in understanding this earth
wisdom the is designed to have brethren unknowing run to
the light of these ministries seeking New knowledge that
is indeed within Our Fathers will, and the Holy spirit
does Honor the Truth of this Scriptural knowledge , but
in Spirit is one of Two perceptions Our Father desire is
to worship so as to participate in His Worth in
worthiness.
The second is Truth and that is central in principle for
those who desire to please Our Father is being robed of
by Satan
Here is one way of saying it: We have million of folks
who honestly desire to know God and His Way and that
takes Godly Knowledge all know there is on Father and one
some and only Holy Spirit yet here we all can see and
have suffered to some degree the concept that there are
thousand of men and women given to the false perception
that they have the right to resolve their "own"
righteousness to extend and influence others concerning
their own faith which is their hope. and why not in
spirit believe that the Holy Spirit is on their side
because they can congregate , and agree to share in the
building of an external structure that will assure their
personal identity and well you know some kind of creed or
constitution has to be put into place so that all who
have made decisions that this ( their way) is the the
Way of God then the only way to retain any unity is to
make sure what is preached and taught is a matter of
their own understanding ,because if it is not then their attendance will wax or wane. Here then Satan know that
this is an opportune time to suggest that if they are to appear to have god blessing then they are in need of
turning the factual Truth of God word as that truth into
the food for all to know. ( there is more to be
understood here but then the need of funding their own institution is need of making sure thing said in scripture get cooked so the are palatable ( meaning there
is no "offensive things said to cause the membership to
wane.
Here then everything is made to look , smell , feel ,
taste, and be heard in a pleasing presentation, that give
all attending the feeling of being loved. So this was
requires a leader as a pastor to attend to what an evangelist might bring in to bring what Revelation that
all have agreed is the Truth in place so the Teachers can
impart the knowledge that does in Truth as a half truth
allow the iniquity of those leader who like to be seen
and heard form up there on a podium in a pulpit to over-
lord or see their unity as a matter of their church name
as their identity is strife for other to compared with or
competed against against can give reason for their
richness in numbers. fourdational for jealousy by other
trying to appear more Knowledgeable of God, therefore
God will bless their stand.
Here then in the false way Satan know that all will
function in the lust of their flesh to run so as to win
the game in appearing to be the best, knowing that that
the Gift or the Apostles and the Prophets wisdom will be eliminated and the Gifts of God via the Holy Spirit can
no longer function via a one by one presenting of what
Revelation via the Nine gift of the Spirit can be tested
and judged individually and collective by a one on one
use of Godly wisdom to enact Godly forgiveness
foundational for a unity with the minds of all Gathered
even if it is as little as two of three host the presence
of Our Lord Who is Christ Jesus in the power and promise
of the Holy Spirit
So Christ one simple and righteous Way of presenting the
Truth needed for the judgement of resolving any offence that has resulted in un-forgiveness foundational for an
un-righteous judgement verses Righteous Judgement to sanctification the heart and souls of all gather is "also
eliminated' but the Understanding of Godly Knowledge,
that would allow the Godly wisdom of God Truth to renew
their minds need for the ability to love one another manifesting the Unity of His Kingdom within all present
of their minds of all abiding in Christ in His Way of
speaking Truth in love provide all involved to know his
way as the relate to one another in their everyday life
in the peace of His Understanding and the Joy of is
Wisdom
Here is the Righteous Approach or a host praying for God
to come and extend his and those he love life by inviting
Christ as the Guest of honor,and it is the wisdom of God
that any man honor the man as an authority in the seeking
of God and His righteousness and in doing so God will in
due season those called servant whose work it is to work
out their election to attend, also as a guest to abide
there via their experience with Christ to affirm and confirm as gift men what is the gifting of the those
attending as a Way to bring them into the understanding
of the truth so all involved can justify their way to
have life manifesting the peace of God among them ,
partaking of the joy that is to be experienced in being
found in the Unity of Our Father House as the Way of
Life.
Yes we can praise God in the Spirit of his presence in
spirit among us ,but this one Way of the renewing of the
minds of all that experience this kind of even will experience the power of God Word changing the minds of
those seeking the Kingdom , as they have given themselves
to the doctrine of Christ for his reproof , therefore expecting His correction in a loving way of those gather, allowing they too were once living in internal pretense
of their own righteousness at the expense of losing their
wives or husbands or children while appearing to know
Christ ,never know that in approaching him via this un-
righteous way (hold their iniquity within them , He
,Christ is unable to know them...
Rom 8:4 That the righteousness of the law might be
fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after
the Spirit.
At the present as you know Daniel I am writing to the
correction of this false way ,but more so the the
explanation of how it stats with lust ,but I find that
few understand the word ,in that they think it has to do
with the sole act of sexual desire,so it might be that
you would like to look at this understanding of the
Apostles .
Gal 5:16 This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye
shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.
Gal 5:17 For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and
the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the
one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye
would.
In truth the mind as a matter of being made in the Image
of go is able to form concepts via the heart of kardia or
the mind, and then those concepts are approved ( can be)
by our minds as the function of our dianoia or
imagination .but if they are not as a matter of our conscious approved by our physhe or spirit or soul with
the help of the holy spirit then we are tempted to act on
a false perception in the use of our body manifesting the
lust or covetousness to find the peace of having some
joy,but then in a rush to act as opposed to abiding in
Christ to add to our understanding what might not be a
right way of relating the peace goes missing and so it
is in the Body of Christ to act , having no patience's;
to
seek Christ Way as the Truth for our everyday life and
then we wonder no what is the reason ,but why God does
not add to our peace of being able to gather in the
teaching of his Way ,but then have no time to enter in to
His rest as a matter of remaining in the Spirit to gain
an understanding of how it is we are to love one another
as He love us.
Here in the Like Mindedness of the Prophets I pray that
the apostle will understand our Gift is to support their
work, according to Righteous Judgement and not to take
over as some think where it is , when it is and how it is that Our Lord would have us acknowledge His sending us as
a matter of His will. In His Correction ,Bro Larry
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Thank you Larry for pointing out these things. Here in this forum I see an example of how things can operate in the congregations if allowed. There are prophets here with various gifts. Some teach by way of revelation some have dreams and visions. Some have praises to magnify God and some like Isaiah are poetic prophets. And then some have an eye on the move of God upon the congregations around the world; and come here to report the news. So I found this out here and I can see that the Holy Spirit is the head of this and arranged and ordered this. And I see that every member has its part. Which the worldly churches do not allow to take place. This arrangement and ordering of the members of the body here into their various places and working offices. Is something that come to pass of a natural order that takes place under the leadership of the Spirit. Each one here is capable of teaching exortation and helping to make corrections.
In turn by reading and listening to what God has provided to the prophets here. I can discern what is going on in places. And know about what God is doing in the world. Especially in people's spirits. And get confirmations and witnesses as well as be a witness.
I know I can misunderstand things I read and commit it to God to show me. And I can be misunderstood just as easily. But I do not mind clearing it up if it helps. And correction is a good thing for us all if we get off track.
My vision is of how God wants us to grow spiritually in the faith. Which I see you too have a vision of. I would want for people to lean more to living in the presence of His Spirit and to allow the Spirit to teach them the word. And I know those words of Scriptures the Spirit points to for our growth. Jesus said the works that He did we would do also; yet this was believed mostly by the apostles and when people ceased to believe it; it stopped.
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Daniel...
Here maybe as a matter of a prophetic concretion ,the are
now two of us ( perhaps more that are seeking the
Righteousness of hoe Our Lord Wisdom as righteousness
instruction for not only for the prophets to gather
Christ Way to present the Righteousness Understanding or
how the Wisdom of testing and judging the prophecies come here need at home are part of Satan way to keep Godly
Wisdom form being applied in the lives of those now
seeking the Kingdom.
I am working on the matter as Our Lord has it before me
and it maybe you are doing the same thing as two are
better that one. so if it seems good to you in the spirit
I will being adding to six part prophecy and over view
of it understanding and then one more ,
As I prayed I received a call about a young lady having a
dream that I believe cam tome because I have made this
stand to abide according to Our Lord Truth presented to
the Apostles as to how Satan used men and women to enter
into these gathering and rendering them powerless.
Feel free to call as I can call back or e-mail me
prophilion@yahoo.com and the wisdom of testing and
judging prophecy may be the very correction that other
prophets will come to understanding how their prophecy
being used at their home meeting may become that powerful
Way that is need to allow Christ to bring his Unity in and among them for the peace and joy of being found
having Christ's present among them..
1-806-423-1267
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Thank you brother Larry I can contact by email. My phone minutes are low on number but email and internet on my phone are a free service with no charges.
I realize in reality that churches today (though there are some good ones and good pastors too) are caught up in this compeditive spirit of this world in which we all live. Where the world daily now since the invention of news papers. radio. televisions and now the internet. Is filled with an ocean of voices hour by hour around the world; always trying to sell us on some product via all these ads. And the roads and streets have bill boards. And it is like old Egypt where you could scarecly lift your eyes and not see something written and portrayed upon the pillars and walls. Of which we have been living our whole lives here again in Egypt and have to come up out of.
And so as you pointed out some churches are of the spirit that their way is better than others. And that they have invented a way to make themself appear to be more righteous outwardly in surface appearance. But inwardly they lack the Spirit of Truth and make their own bread (man made religious doctrine) as well as make and wear their own robes of righteousness. But they all claim to be married to the same man; so that they will not endure and suffer reproach. And they are caught up in the commercial merchandising spirit of this world. Buying and selling souls to have people as cattle they brand and mark as their own for their fields they own. Making merchandise of souls. As users and abusers of mankind. Which makes them no different than the beast seen in Daniel for governments do and treat people this same way.
Now these people plant their house and door post along the straight and narrow. Placing their door post by His. To divert and attract pilgrims in to buy their religious merchandise and wares. Thus robbing the house of the Mighty One.
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Daniel..
What you're sharing about the Unity of the Prophets is
part of a major "Correction" for the Body of Christ . Satan's
way is that way the Apostles warned about ,in which God
Way of gathering in His Way manifested Christ Presence
and Power.
The Prophets see this Unity as part of their Gift ,but
this Way o Gathering is reversed as compared to how a
meeting take place in the world.
Go back and listen to every apostle and what you will
hear in the Spirit as a matter of Truth they warn all of
this false way in which the leaders would site themselves
as a personal ( personality) that had Godly Knowledge and
then Overlord the meeting with this way in which the
Unity or the Spirit is lose ,broken, in mind, but quenched and grieved in Spirit.
Knowledge is projected in the false way, but
Understanding is lost, and if lost all leave the meeting
with not Godly Wisdom that is Foundational for the Unity
of their individual and collective approach to Life
If Christ is the Way, Then His Truths via His Revelation
will come form all participating ( one by one) and as
this comes fourth, only then will the apostles&Prophets
test and judge the Understanding .
What we have now is a false way in which all participating take of granite mentally, that all they
will get is a "reminding of the Word as opposed to a Renewing of their minds in the Spirit of Truth that is or can be used "right now" in the present to ; When applied
speak in the power of the truth to those they desire to
minister to in "pure "forgiveness" via the "renewed minds
of how to relate to those they love "without any
offence"...
This is what the traditional leaders or pastors fear the
most. My point being is that they lose control of the Sheathing know that when they is Godly correction taking
place. The have to ( in Faith) step back (no forward) and
in doing so Christ as the Guest of honor is allow to
minister healing and deliverance.
Her is the wisdom in that this Way is the same Way I as a
Father gather with my wife and my sons to seek the will
of God and?
Well as a working Prophet I doing nothing until I am led
to some one or group or they to me to seek out ( not the
knowledge they already know as scripture, but to agree to
abide and set down allowing the Holy spirit to come as as
he does I as well as everyone there , begins to have a
settling of their spirits and the unity comes in the
mind? No but in-the psyche/spirit .soul and the via their
logic/kardia some one feels the peace to speak what they thin is right ans a word ,that Christ has placed with n
them. Only then can this word begins to be understood as
a prophetic word or prediction for Christ Teaching , and
if that is understood by all as prophecy then there is a
powerful understanding . which allow all to see vi their
dianoia /imagination/ mind the Godly wisdom of how the
one or more brethren need to relate in spirit via the
Spirit to manifest a Godly wittiness to themselves,
others ,or God the Father Himself for forgiveness "any"
or "all" those Father God might add to the fellowship.
Here then is the power of the Unity Manifested as Kingdom
Way in which the Truth of all gathering can have their
minds renewed, so as to apply or put one the Mind of
Christ, as the proceed to go out to experience their
individual lives and do so in the Peace of knowing Gods
will on how to.... as wisdom wittiness His love for
others.
This is a form of Godliness that has power verses a worldly form of man controlled ( pastored)way that
appears to look good in form but has no power to "renew
the minds of those participating.
No Apostle Gifting to Gather and no Prophetic Gifted
Presence to test and judge all of what is being shared in
the Spirit as the Truth then. no power = no Godly
Understanding = no unity of the minds or those meeting
and ? Well it a meeting in the flesh verses a meeting in
the Spirit of Truth.
Thanks for your work here and if is before me in the Lord
to speak to those working to understand how we are to
move from this old way to God Righteous Way of coming
together ,but I am grieved in as Our Lord is grieved as
the Spirit is Grieved that few desire to return to listen
to the Apostle Instruction how easy it is to fall into
this "other" religious ritual calling that a Gathering,but as it happen some are beginning to listen
due to the problem they are beginning to face and ? Well
only then will they understanding that to have the
current Revelation of Christ in their minds , will the power of His peace solve their problems.
Again as we proceeds I will hope via our Faith to visit
with you as a matter of Our Lords Will.
In Him, Christ Who first loved us.... Bro Larry
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