Posted: 12/06/2012 at 6:49pm | IP Logged

Monday, November 28, 2005

Posted: 12/15/2012 at 7:47am | IP Logged

Thanks Steven.

Here again prophet to prophet I agree within those principles or truths of Our Lord who is Jesus Christ, Here is His calling for us to come out and fourth to be holy and that means wise,manifestiong the wisom of God among us inthe Way we appraoch eachother and Him to form a oneness or Unity in the powere of the Spirit, so ...top and for... those souls we encounter can be recieved by the Gifted and the Givers as Servants of Our Lord for the Trnewing of thir mind /hearts ,that which will rise up their souls /spirts/ psyches and then and only then will we witness the powere of God among ous.

And what will we witnnes signs and wonders desired by those given to bee seeen? No we will witness the slow and patience renewing of the minds or all those desiring and repented to find their Way as Chrsit Way to relate to those they Love and desire to be recieved by out of a worldy way of rejection by the minds of others given to judge and be known as minister of Christ so set in their hard and fast presenting of a Gospel of Men as opposed to the Gospel of God , given to just preach and give no time to seek the understanding of the Kingdom of God Way's they them selves have to hid behind there rushed tiem element to be seen by those who desire to bee know "otu ther in the World.

Mat 5:20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven

The does not say Faith , Love, or works, because you can not "get to" Love without ministering "hope" as the Hope of a being gahtered in a Righteous Way in which your work is the establishing or renewing of the minds/kardias of those who are lost due to the lust of the false presentation of knowledge but have no tiem to set with those in need of Godly Understanding.

You are my people, created for my purposes.
Grow in me that my glory may be released.
Do not become weak in my testing, but persevere in me.
Know the reward is sure.

Where is the place we must grow in Glory and what is at the heart of the diverse and powerful word Glory other than Wisdom?

With a Righteous Gahtering we will remain "weak" in the Testing and discermnet of the Gifts of the Spirit...And more so in the preserving of the Presence and Powere of Our Lord Righteousness among us!

Blessing Bliss.. your elder brother and in our prayer, study and calling to speak the Truth in Love.

Larry

Posted: 12/16/2012 at 5:31am | IP Logged

Thanks Jeff and Dent.

Have we, as indivuals or as a body, yet learned to walk in love or speak/talk in ways which are not devisive or cutting?

Posted: 01/03/2013 at 11:08pm | IP Logged

Dear Steven,

In Principle , this is a Kingdom Question...

In this part of your wording:

.......yet learned to walk in love or speak/talk in ways.....

Is what is...that is I believe is centeral .... in.....Principal or Truth to Fahters in Heaven Will, therefore a Way and /or His Way of relating in a Righteous Way.

The Kingdom Preception is that in our Faith it cannot work ,but in the Faith of Christ it can and ? 

The "and" part is the we walk as a Godly Approach to come together in the Knowledge of God ,then sit in the Spirit to experience the Godly Understanding of His Love. Once that is experienced ,only then can we return to walking in the Godly Wisdom of that Love.

It is here Our Lord has me sitting in His Correction and if in HIs Will vai my ( our Gifting from Our Lord ,having worked via our own individual calling and ellection preach the Good News that via the Promise of the Powere of the Spirit or Truth we as a matter of our Faith ( and act of Righteousness) sit together in Our Lords own Hope, the results of which is to expereince His Love .

Once expereinced we no longer fear any thoughts of doing ,but being "IN Him" and IN Him we no longer fear this ideal of being "seen" so as to resolve our own personal ideals or what is an idenity given to be pleasing in the "sight of men"..

The reason being is once the Faith of Chrit turn into the Hope of Christ ,the the Love of Christ Wisdom on how to "sit (enter into His Rest) , become the Love of Christ manifested as the Godly Wisdom use in Heaven.

Here is my point ( and I am still learning the powere of this Way) is that Christ does not go any where or use an other way,but we as influanced as men pleasing other men "do"!

How shall one say this? Men ,on could say run with the concept of obtaining more and more knowledge or Christ and joy in the adventure of being seen doing so, but few can sit and wait so as to abide in His Understanding of that Knowledge, so they "hurry " to get up and run if they are found short of understanding ,so as to give an explanation of their understanding ,so as to shae the wisdom of applied Godly Knwoledge.

What is the problem is that it is in sitting in the proclaiming, ( of this calling = their election) they have no peace, unless they are on the move in the power of being projected in mind and body in the light of men's mind,but apart and unrelated in spirit ,therfore a false form of earthly unity.

Here we find it is easy and of great gain in saying preaching Christ in the Spirit , but to add the Truth of His Crucifixion was, is and will be that part that men will find offensive and if offensive "allway in many divided ways"... call for the wisdom of the world to be used to produce a form of Godlyness, but because they cannto in the patience of God love "sit" together to believe that Christ by the Gifts of the Spirit can "settle their fears" of theselves ,one another aqnd God Himself in not doing somethingwhich call for creating a place the can oversee to over lord, so that they will not appear ....not ... to have the power of God .

Last,... many speak of their knowledge of the Kingdom, and try to appear to have the Power, but in doing so project their own glory.

In Truth that Glory or Wisdom or function or Righteousness belong to no man...

Thine is the Kingdom as Knowledge.. of the Father

Thine is the Power as Understanding...of the Spirit

Thine is the Glory as Wisdom...of the Son,

Satan is knowledge-, and able and has no rest ,so must run to and fro ,less he be caught in not understanding what he knows, and if he were to sit the wisdomless part of his evil spirit would show...

In my repentance Our Lord has spoken to me:

Go and speak to those I will send you too, and or they to you and if they desire to to abide In Men then abide with them and if they with you ,then the Righteousness of My Faith will restore their Hope and in the Understanding of my Hope , then My the Power of My Love will alos abide. Only the if ye abide to sit IN me them the Spirit of Truth will come and the renewing of your  minds will come as the the Righteousness, or My Kingdom will come forth in all abiding in My Peace and the Joy of Our Fahter will be made full.

In this Truth many will come and go in Spirit as the Spirit Gifts those who remain. He who remains will suffer My reproof and correction, but the undersantding of My Word will come and here and there the Spirit will gift those who abide and the Light of My Way will come and in this Light the Understanding of My Kingdom will come, Then the Power or My Peace...will restore the Joy of the Wisdom of My Kingdom within them . Rest with Me, I Am the Lord  

Posted: 01/06/2013 at 5:54am | IP Logged

...they have no peace

It's not so much as to the "they". I must concern myself with myself and the correct releationships.

Posted: 01/06/2013 at 11:35am | IP Logged

A bit slow ....here Steven and long in word, but : being concerned myself and with others is they Will of Our Father in Heaven.

Here the word "they" as others via or judgements is very real,but we are to seek first the Kingdom and its Ritheousness, and or what as knowledge is being shared seems good, but become a matter of sancification for the justification of our salvation when up close and personal = a one one one dynamic as we gather to share Godly Wisdom for the Renewing of our minds to move into and amnog those we live with and expereince as friends from day to day.  This to is Faith, just as Christ lives among us. But if not then it become a matter of  another way in which they become they and us them, is it not.

It easy to become they or them, but hard to become us as Our Fahter is no respector of persons...

1Co 1:27 but God chose the foolish things of the world, that he might put to shame those who are wise; and God chose the weak things of the world, that he might put to shame the things that are strong;

But I am back , and as always with you in heart/mind Kardia , I joy in working in spirit,in Spirit, to be founin Our Lords Hope ( that being Our Lords Hope) that we can allow ( where two or three are gathered) within the Spirit of Truth to Find within ourselves a better Understanding of Christ's Will on how as Wisdom we can be ministered an opening ,so as to enter into the Kingdom of God in which the Mystery of Our Fathers Way becomes known among one another, that  of a Righteous Way , manifestion His Peace, we who sit together in Spirit will recieve Christ Revelation for our lives.and what is this ,but Our Father IN Heavens Will to manifet this Unity in and among us that far exceeds the muiltudes of falling churches tha seek an external physical "place" to worship ....

But in principle :"It's not so much as to the they"  But if in Christ ( en) We first must concern ourselves = myself with mysef = how we are to be an example in Character = His Name to bear up our souls in the BELIEF that Christ is here within us  ( or can be among us) vai the Power of the Holy Spirit to Teach us one by one for the renewing of our minds to be found as a matter of Godly given cinsciousnees ,always forgiving and open in spirit to learn that ther is a way that can seem right vai our knowledge ,but at the same time the end or application of that knowledge is death.

Why and I so foolish and stuck so as to seem condencending ( if that is spelled right)  But I believe we should say among one anther one on one:..."

No for what reason and that reason is that as we recieve HIs Revelation among ourselves then  in Truth ....there is no they....., only we .

Well meaning folks knowledgeable of Christ ,but not given to the Godly undeerstanding think as they do something to be found in the reverance of the Spirit  have and do form within their Dianoia/ Imagination or mind that "they" can honor Christ Way as gathering in "their way" to being senn ofrfound in the act of projection Knowledge from scripture ,dreams, visions, or prophecy with out the direction of Christ to prove all things.

So without this they become those or them that are right in their own eys of sight to bee seen, leaving those that become "them" = them being those who have the own way, so the offence is resolved "without in their divided mindsets and feel the powere of no commitment to sit togehter and allow Our Lord to renew thier way of thinking vai the llust of the flesh = brian function givent to logical and holistic thingking, void of subjecting this reasoning to the Wisdom and Knowledge of waht the Holy Spirit could bring if allowed.

But Pride disallows this pure aand simple One and only Godly Way of Christ bring Repoof qand Correction to or spirits or souls ,so that we can have self control among one another to beqar up our brothers qand sisters (even ouselves ) as we come into ( learn ) the Truth about our un-right ways verses the right Ways or Christ to Love as He loves, in which "all"offences are vanished in His wisdom...

Here within this Gentile  Imagination they think not about the fact that they are there in a gathering for Chrisrt to minister individually and collectively the Understanding of that Eternal Knowledge, so the can proceed in His Wisdom to for-give any sin and replace it within their minds = His Mind on How to "walk" or move out of a sttting position = knowing something, to a walking position manifesting a Righteous Relationship, foundational for experincing the Peace and Joy of Our Lord Who is Christ Jesus way of Sanctification...= astate of growing in the Grace of God for the application of His Mercy among those called out ones...

What Christ is......within us..... takes away the worly ideals of them or they...manifested as different forms of ministiries in which their is no untity in Spirit = the function of and evil imagination or thinkiing cnetered on what "they"do as compared to what Christ can do among those gathering ot honor His Way of presenting His Truths in Power as the Glory of  His Life.

So if no Unity in Spirit, then in mind  "they " must form their own mental image and likeness of what they "they think" is a way to project the Knowledge of Christ WAY of loving one another , but without the power of the Spirit of Truth, they never come to a Godly Understanding they are FREE in Christ to sit with any or all sinners without fear ....who are Seeking a Kingdom, but more so It's Righteousness = the Instructions of Righteousness that when understood we become ONE in Spirit and are free from the worldly concept that the 'We's have the 'sway and THEY don't..

A they or them mindset is foundational for an evil imagination to project the traditional and religious ideal in which "the theys" are not fre to learn or disagree vai the knowledge we might via present Godly Revelation or Prophesy or the patience's to test and prove the truth of waht is shared vai prayere and scripture.... and this give reason to the temptation to cast onself into a flesh powered ministery ( no REST) for  the defence of God and remove onself from what "they believe" or become what "they believe" in Spirit, with reguards to Righteous Apolistic Instructions to prove what is good..

However unity can !  And only then can "all" come into the ongoing "Forgiveness of Christ in us, to face any offence we may incounter . We ,in other words have not place to.. go!  That is to be seen the "Theys" are doing to prove God's favor on them as the Theys that are right!

In our resolve to believe Christ we being fully grown up in Christ are able to "sit together "and abide in Christ (in Spirit ) untill what is shared or is a matter of prophecy; untill this Knowledge old or new is tested in spirit and judged by the all present as being the Truth of a Godly Way ,then teaching vai elders of experience that we are to respond to Godly Reproof) and the if in Unity via our chardia,pyche,and dianoia = the wholeness of our minds Understanding in Spirit ....see so as to act (manifesting the fruitof the Spirit) to correct or be corrected as to the Godly Wisdom all of our....  need sto function in a Way,manifesting a gathering of folks in whicrest ,being found Free of any offence that can undo the power of our Peace as a family.

I do think Our Father has only one Family?

 As a Family we are Face one another in Godly forgiveness and try to work out what is a working offence = a  Mis-undersstanding between all those relating in that real time space on a one on one or a one by one relationship as each day passes and as much as possible be at peace with all that do not believe this is the Way of God.

Second , if that does not work the call for a few other trusted eleders to sit with them and see ,so as to make known what Knowledged and Understanding is to be both found in Scripture and or via Christ Revelation  as prophesy....for then right then and there viathe Gifts of Men or the Gifts of the Spirit.

Third, If no Understanding is found then all involved is to be  given foward  to sahre with the wholw of all those gahteing so the offence between the two or more involved ,become  the need for a Godly Understanding is to sought and prayed for among all "sitting down  in Spirit thereby allwoing Christ to bring to them the Wisdom of HIs Way to approach Life in His Righteousness and Peace and Joy as a Godly correction for not just the one or the other ,but all involved. 

Here one could say this happen any way, but it does not ,because in this way  whiuch is the Way Christ is still involved , and if there is any conviction, then it is here many will retuen to seek the Kingdom as opposed to then of they which will fight to defend their own righteousness by refusing to relate "back" to those offended in hops of restoring that brother or sister. This is oppsed to what some have called stoine walling out in silence other who they fear will destrory their own though up and out way of ministering  of Love of God  at the expence of the Truth of God.

So as a matter of Righteous Judgement we can understand tshose with as a "they mindset "will fear this last step of involving the whole of those gathered...The reason being is that those so called leader Understanding or the Lack of it will be exposed. and to stop their concepts of a mission for God verses "With God"  to wait on Christ to manifest Himself  in some one to speak vai his or her gifting is intelectually blocked via some personal status or need to use that time to do better things.

In truth this Way of God ( which can never happen from afar ) as so desigened by Satan in which requires all to function out of his tempatation  they or them  must from  an external pul-pit or high place soas to be seen casting onsef down to minister using the ruditments of this world the make him or here appear to be the real loving minster of God , free from being involved in any family problems.

Therfore it is a one on one expereince that the Body of Christ will have need of in the day's of tribulation, verses "they" that have to run here and there to find out Who "THEY" are, that ar the true servants of God, when Our Lord may have His servant right there among them.

Last here is the word below that is use via Apolistic Wisdom  for they...And unless we understand the wisdom of what the Apostle is saying ,,,,then the Un-Right way of relating to one another in Spirit of God may seem good, but with the Truth of that way not being understood the "Theys of this world using worldly wisdom may like you, but will not have the Patience;s of Christ in then to Abide within themselves to minister in a Kingdom Way (having Christ Revelation) in the Love of Christ to speak the Truth in love and deed in and among those who have come to expereince who you are , what you are , when you are , and how you are in Christ with running away from you.

1Th 5:13 and to esteem them exceedingly highly in love for their work's sake. Be at peace among yourselves.

Last here is the power of the a Kingdom Gathering in the the Power of it is based on Peace as opposed to signs and miracles, which in Truth is a sign and a miracle.....

Posted: 01/07/2013 at 3:41pm | IP Logged

I go back to my statement, unless I am right with God, I can never love my neighbor in the manner which it is meant.  I can not rightly correct "they" unless I am walking in a "corrected" manner.

I must yet conduct my life, walking in love,  or speaking/talking in ways which are not devisive or cutting.

Posted: 01/09/2013 at 2:11pm | IP Logged

Larry,  I believe I've been in agreement with what you've posted thus far. We just express it differenly at a few levels.  ((:

>>But the True Apostles and Prophets Know of this reproof  and correction within and is able to abide in this

of which I am not part of either. But the truth remains unchanged.

Posted: 01/10/2013 at 4:53pm | IP Logged

Once expereinced we no longer fear any thoughts of doing ,but being "IN Him" and IN Him we no longer fear this ideal of being "seen" so as to resolve our own personal ideals or what is an idenity given to be pleasing in the "sight of men"..

Amen Dent, amen.