Posted: 10/26/2012 at 12:08pm
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Daniel.
You write this:
The word of God is of no debate. And if anyone is a true prophet who actually did receive a word from God. The rest would debate it and vote on whether it is real or whether or not it will come to pass. As if not believing it will hence prevent its fulfillment.
Here we must work on the conception of the wisdom of how those brethren were using their Instructions of Righteousness when Gathered, allowing their Faith as Christ Faith to be engaged.
IN Truth as a matter of what I believe was so wonderfully simple is that the Apostles and Prophets came into a gathering of those folks who had heard the Gospel, then being drawn (having repented of what they knew was the other old and ancient Athenian/ Greek /Gentile way of forming a Ekklesia/ Ecclesia or poly of local people to govern , so as to relate and find what was the best way for their community or family to relate so there would be an ongoing right way in which justice would be understood ,and applied among all and if there was any members of that community was suffering an injustice then the whole of that community error could be reproved ,and corrected.
The Good News was that Christ had come! So here we can understanding that because He had come, the Promise of His Presence would now assured ( even if as little as Two or three were gathered He would be involved) among them if there was a disagreement , offence, and or an evil “happening take place” it would be corrected via the Power of God and if corrected then Our/Their Father in Heaven would add to those Gathered other to be helped to have a place in time to have food , family and work, manifesting the Life of Christ.
For example in my community there are various forms of Churches, but because none of them have any Prophetic Revelation as to their use of a false Way, they remain separated and will become war-like if one questions their way. All suffering the reality of some hove a daughter married to the son of who’s membership is tow different “persuasions” and that demands an ongoing offence “within: then as iniquity, but being imprisoned by the fear of being rejected (more so their children) all pretend in pride that one or the other will be judged for their sin, when they see which or the two groups grows the biggest.
This false way based on the use of “half truths” , requires these churches to create and defend their own justification, which is sin, because they must judge who has the most knowledge and appears to be the most righteous = their own righteousness proceeding in spirit ,but having no truth in it ,calling that the love of Christ.
Rom 4:24 But for us also, to whom it shall be imputed, if we believe on him that raised up Jesus our Lord from the dead;
Rom 4:25 Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification
And?????????? How in the world did this happen and a better question is how in the world did Satan destroy the Godly Way of the “justification” of His; Christ Way, via His Truth in order that all could inter into His Way of Life in the Truth?
As a matter of Truth , in one of these “True´ Godly Gathering the Power of God ‘s presence was there via the Holy Spirit and if there be ( is) any reason He was there it was to bring three things in principle they were to be single-minded upon was the Teaching of Our Lord ,Who was Christ, being presented as the Doctrine of Christ by the Apostles and Prophets who were foundational in presenting it and only then were the Evangelist, Pastors, and Teachers involved caring for what was necessary for, when it was necessary for, and how it was necessary for those to have their minds renewed via the Gift of the Spirit ,being helped by those Gifted as an election, so at any time ,any place , or any where all involved could and would say the same things . That being that they could call on Christ and He by Way of this Sanctification bring Unity to all or one’s of minds to all who were given to worship Christ in Spirit and the Truth.
The Reproof:
Joh 16:8 And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment:
The Correction
1Co 1:28-31 And base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath God chosen, yea, and things which are not, to bring to nought things that are: That no flesh should glory in his presence. But of him are ye in Christ Jesus, who of God is made unto us wisdom, and righteousness, and sanctification, and redemption: That, according as it is written, He that glorieth, let him glory in the Lord.
Satan knew he could not stop the flow of the Knowledge of God Word concerning His Righteousness. However he could stop the Understating of God Word concerning Godly Sanctification and if that was stopped then “no “justification foundational for our justification of being found as “One IN Christ” .
To do this Satan needed to alter the Way of Christ , and replace it with a way of the Gentiles to reinstated a ritualized way of observing rules and regulations via men pleasing men’s Creeds, that would assure these false leaders of their own Righteousness , power of their own personalities and profits and last but most important : The defending of God ,because He would love them more in being seen out there in the world being liked and loved without being rejected form doing business with the rich.
Their goal for the gold was; “No more testing and judgment of any prophecy” that concerned the healing and deliverance for the renewing of the minds of the saints who in all reverence… allowing Christ to Show the a Way in which was a Way That He and His Father brought Unity in Heaven and would in that time when the Gentiles had failed at Grace just as the Jew’s had failed at keeping the Law leaving both the Jews and the Gentiles in a doubled-minded state such as being manifested in Election for our next President of the USA, Christ would return to justify that Same Way of the Truth need for eternal life in the Righteousness of God , for the Peace of God, for the Joy of God to be experienced eternally for all who had Repented and activated in Their Forgiveness of all that they suffer as Christ Way was contrasted to the way of men provided by Satan himself .
WE saw by ,in and for the light of men four presidential “debates” leaving a divided nation 50/50 with the bottom line of a nation ongoing sin of greed project the blindness so called men candidates who say they believe God yet as they as Churched Americans proclaim a right and left way , that is divided ,both willing to tell others there is their way or nothing , that in principle is that the reason this country falling is neither have the character to set down to Repent of their way of believing that their own churches have any revelation via their own so called divine Church leaders . For what reason is that there is no Revelation Unity in these Churches for themselves let alone the poor of this nation, so why not let the rich remain free from paying their share of what is need for all to live with some form of hope.
This is True by Daniel’s…conscious and is it prophetic?
The truth is that a true Word from God will come to pass regardless of whether anyone believes it or not. God knows they will not believe it yet He foretells what He is going to do. So that when it comes to pass men cannot say they were not forewarned and that God did not give them space to repent. Yet some do believe the word and are spared
The Correction…
Of a truth it matters not if they believe for their lack of belief or discernment in no wise can hinder the word from being fulfilled. It is of no debate. Besides God and His prophet makes up a majority in heaven and earth. Whether or not any man stands up with the prophet.
However , in Spirit of God ‘s Grace via the election of His Prophets are coming into this “end time” discernment that , many will not repent of these religious false ways of worshiping the Temple/Churches built by man, as opposed to worshiping “Within the Temple not made with Hands. ”
Man pleasing men in trying to “sell” the external Bride of Christ and the other becoming aware that the internal Bride of Christ is not going to prostitute herself in her appearance, let alone the Truth and of the Truth that Christ Mercy for her in that she is able to have the OIL of Revelation for Her lamp.
In Truth , Truth is manifested in and among true believers in Character that they are no longer in need of defending themselves ,God , and or their churches , but highly given to defend their Way of Christ Faith , no longer judging = Who they think they are verses who those others are neighbors in life; as competing and comparing one another in an outer appearance , but able to test and judge “what” many are doing that is not according to the Instruction of Righteousness in gathering to gather in righteous Reverence to Christ Way.
That is to receive His prophetic Revelation, of which it is a matter of Godly Revelation, for those given to seek” first” the Kingdom of God to test and judge Prophecy to witness His Own Character if and when that prophecy causes a “Working Righteous Offence” among those Gathered or on the is powerless in Character, designed to cause all to fear their lack of obeying false leaders desire to support their own worldly religious institutions of iniquity.
Here is the wisdom : Bring it before the whole of those Gathered to let Christ bring us the Truth, and if any offence come of which the two who have offended one another can be resolved through Godly understanding, and or even if two more believers are allowed to work on the matter , and ? Well “And” is if Christ via the Spirit of Truth is allowed to participate and those gathered remain united in mind to wait, then He will bring the individual or the collective ones in the disagreement to a Godly Correction for all involved.
This is a matter of faith being used and not some pretentious act that: “O Well if we bring all this up before the church, then there may be a division take place so why not be holy and stone wall the offence in being silence, less some question our authority?”
IN the beginning the Ekklesia’s functioned in this freedom of the Truth making those gathered unto Christ free until Satan remove the Apostles and Prophets, suggesting how unloving it might be to offend all , so why not allow the pastor to rule as opposed to allow the elder Apostles and Prophets to confirm their life’s experience to the younger and the younger learning to understanding that Godly Understanding comes by the Word of God and unless they are repented of trying to resolve life’s problems without God Revelation, then they too will suffer the Loving Correction of God via God’s Mercy needed when some give no time to seek His Grace for himself others and God Himself.
IN Truth to debate is an ungodly way of Science, Religion, and Political Powers , when Christ is present via the Promise of the Power of the Spirit of Truth to resolve whatever ,when ever , and however there is a working offence between any believers ( as it is their work to believe) for one or the other or both for a Godly Answer”; to how they should not divide themselves in fear , but walk in togetherness of God Way of Love , that found in Righteous Approach for Peace and Joy of the Kingdom of God .
And if before those Gathered, if they still believe then God’s Love is engaged to allow them to go their way; then in the freedom of seeking how it is as wisdom what they believe will work for the Good if they Love God then free wait on Christ, not to hide in pride of silence having confessed Christ as their Lord.
In Truth if they are allowed to stay and debate the matter then they are dogs , wanting to return what they once threw up and out ,but wanting to feed ,desiring to dine on your peace and or the Joy your Peace of being filled in mind ,but in starving in spirit they will rob all gathering of their food as the bread or Word of God for all, not being able to hear Our Lord for themselves thus depriving themselves of Godly Revelation.
Php 3:1 -2 Finally, my brethren, rejoice in the Lord. To write the same things to you, to me indeed is not grievous, but for you it is safe. Beware of dogs, beware of evil workers, beware of the concision.
And
Php 3:15-17 Let us therefore, as many as be perfect, be thus minded: and if in anything ye be otherwise minded, God shall reveal even this unto you. Nevertheless, whereto we have already attained, let us walk by the same rule, let us mind the same thing. Brethren, be followers together of me, and mark them which walk so as ye have us for an ensample.
Last:
The Apostles were given as a Way of Christ to bring Godly Righteousness
The Prophets were given to insure the Godly Understanding of Sanctification
The Evangelist, Pastors and Teachers we to announce, aid, and apply the Godly Justification of who we are, when we are, and how we are found each day in the Righteousness, Peace and Joy of the Kingdom of God
Each Temptation Satan approached Christ, Our Lord with was to cause in mind at the expense of His Spirit freedom, to “turn, bow down, and worship, and do the work of God as Satan desire to do, using the Knowledge of God. However because of Satan’s rebellion and blindness , can receive no Godly Revelation as understanding , but to men his way seems right ,but the end of it is death .
When we are to honor God Way using is Revelation for us given no only to the Apostles and Prophets but to all Gathered in a Righteous Way; Understanding. And if Satan has no understanding , then no wisdom, other than to effect and infect the thoughts of others to approach life via the deception of having heard the Word of God , as knowledge ,but as a family ,never seek to trust Christ via a one on one relationship in allowing the Holy Spirit to confirm that Godly Understanding allowing us as being members of the same “one” Body of Christ to use His Wisdom which manifest the Unity of God the Fathers Love of all , foundation for the function of His Kingdom.
The mystery is that something is imputed to our souls, and then that something if True as Truth is True then Sanctified and “confirmed”, corroborated, and validated in us and one on one = a one by one using and applying of a Way of God that may offend those given to iniquity, but freedom to those given to Love themselves, others and God Himself that preserves the unity of their “Souls”.
Here the question of our origin and reason for being born is the results of God’s Love, and this love can only be preserved in and by the use of Truth.
Last in the patience of my “many words” am being very thankful you are working on these things, allowing the Joy of you calling and election as work , work on the following verse and tell me what Our Lord allow you to see .
Act 15:3032 So when they were dismissed, they came to Antioch: and when they had gathered the multitude together, they delivered the epistle: Which when they had read, they rejoiced for the consolation. And Judas and Silas, being prophets also themselves, exhorted the brethren with …many words,… and confirmed them.
And…
Act 15:33 And after they had tarried there a space, they were let go in peace …from the brethren… unto the apostles.
In His Kindness, Bro. Larry
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